BloodFather's Axis of Chaos
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Gandalf the Grey
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All looking jolly interesting old chap.
are you planning anymore weathering for between the slabs ? I'm concerned they look a little clean for what is a grubby mutilated sort of scene.
are you planning anymore weathering for between the slabs ? I'm concerned they look a little clean for what is a grubby mutilated sort of scene.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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What slabs do you mean? The ground on the upper floor? If so, a larger pic will indicate just how weathered it is....about 4 different pigments in abundance.
Gandalf the Grey
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I was meaning the last picture, the upper floor, the area in front of the cannibal.
Hi,
Love it!!!
Be sure I will copy how you have painted the fence, do you have any problem if I ask you by PM when I try it?
You have opened my eyes, all the time thinking the gargoyles have to be painted as a rock and now I know I have to paint them as the fence...
Keep painting!!!
Many thanks,
Mariano.
Love it!!!
Be sure I will copy how you have painted the fence, do you have any problem if I ask you by PM when I try it?
You have opened my eyes, all the time thinking the gargoyles have to be painted as a rock and now I know I have to paint them as the fence...
Keep painting!!!
Many thanks,
Mariano.
BloodASmedium
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wicked work bfok as ussual...
BloodFather of Kharnath
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My lineup of brushes. From left to right, we have a Reaper Master Series size 30-0 for super fine details. Then my go-to detail brush, Winsor Newton Series 7 Watercolour (WN7) size 000. Next, my work horse that does most of my painting, the WN7 size 1. Perfect size IMO, though this one has lost some of its body from wear and tear. Next, my gem, a brand new Scalecolour size 1. Just started using and it is very comparable to my work horse brush, perhaps even better snap and spring to it, but a bit less consistency with capillary action. Love it so far though. If it's a true Kolinsky Tajmyr, as it is named, then it is harvested from the male weasel only in the Siberian town of Tajmyr , aka the real deal Holyfield. Lastly, a WN7 size 2 for large areas like cloaks or on bases. Hardly ever have to go back to the pallet when using the size 2. Anyway, that's my line-up.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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A quick shot taken in less than optimal lighting. Just want to know thoughts before I take final pics and put it in the gallery. Soooo tired of working on this base, just ready to move on, but fairly happy with results. Thx for C&C
Gandalf the Grey
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Is nice the right word for a scene like this ? Well I like it, the stones just infront of the cannibal have a great look, the cleanness I saw has been very well and subtly weathered.
Painting is your hall mark excellence and overall I'm struggling to find any pointers.
Painting is your hall mark excellence and overall I'm struggling to find any pointers.
Scherdy
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I like the skin on him and red armor especially. Might be pics but the pot looks a little flat lacking contrast or something to stand out a little more. Maybe weathering or something to break up the black. The blade/fingers also look like they could use a little deepening of shadows and brighter highlights or sharper bright points? I'm not sure if that's the correct answer but those are the areas that looked "off" to me. The copper gate though, that is really great looking. I get what it's like to want to just be done with a base though.
it does have a cool grimy, post apocalyptic feel though. Nicely done as usual.
it does have a cool grimy, post apocalyptic feel though. Nicely done as usual.
Canny
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Contrast buddy! Scherdy is right some highlights would be good on the pot. It may just be over exposed but I think there needs to be more black in there especially in the blades. If it is over exposed you need bigger highlights. Top painting clean and tidy work looks awesome. I know you can do it your nmm is awesome. It's up to you to choose what you want to do, move on to the next mini and let it be a learning experience or adjust hightlights and shadows or if you disagree it's fine 
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Thank you guys for the help. A couple things I forgot to add. Blood on his scissors and blades. That's why the NMM looks kinda rushed on the scissor (the other blade looks good as you'll see from different photos). So the blood will cover a lot of the blade and then I'll tidy up any NMM weakness.
The other thing I plan to add are spider webs. Spread over the gate, stretched from the top floor to the basement...I'd like a decent amount but I am using real webs and slightly ascared of spiders so....we shall see if I can harvest enough.
With both the blood and the webs, I know that the black top UHU glue works great for dripping blood and very realistic webs. But this stuff isn't available in the USA, so I picked up something called E6000, which in some circles it's been said that it does the same. My trials haven't produced anything too consistent yet tho. Anyone tried this or heard of it?
Thanks again homies!!!
The other thing I plan to add are spider webs. Spread over the gate, stretched from the top floor to the basement...I'd like a decent amount but I am using real webs and slightly ascared of spiders so....we shall see if I can harvest enough.
With both the blood and the webs, I know that the black top UHU glue works great for dripping blood and very realistic webs. But this stuff isn't available in the USA, so I picked up something called E6000, which in some circles it's been said that it does the same. My trials haven't produced anything too consistent yet tho. Anyone tried this or heard of it?
Thanks again homies!!!
Gandalf the Grey
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Use real webs, find some and pass the gates through them.
Maenas
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I find it a bit pale? maybe it is overexposing as canny and sherdy pointed out.
I think though, that adding those webs and blood will add the final punch to the scene.
Also on the spiderwebs issue, I haven't tried it on miniatures, but maybe using "Halloween stretchable spider web" will save you from an undesired spider encounter.... have a look at this: http://www.amazon.com/Stretchable-Spiders-Halloween-Decorations-STC16002-W/dp/B001HYYN38
I bought a big bag of this stuff (or a similar one) 10 years ago and I am still using it for our Halloween parties.
If you decide to try it, just take a very little part of it because it stretches a lot, and if you take big clumps, it does not look real. (I have used it for walls and furniture with nice results)
It is a flammable stuff so keep an eye on that.
I think though, that adding those webs and blood will add the final punch to the scene.
Also on the spiderwebs issue, I haven't tried it on miniatures, but maybe using "Halloween stretchable spider web" will save you from an undesired spider encounter.... have a look at this: http://www.amazon.com/Stretchable-Spiders-Halloween-Decorations-STC16002-W/dp/B001HYYN38
I bought a big bag of this stuff (or a similar one) 10 years ago and I am still using it for our Halloween parties.
If you decide to try it, just take a very little part of it because it stretches a lot, and if you take big clumps, it does not look real. (I have used it for walls and furniture with nice results)
It is a flammable stuff so keep an eye on that.
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BloodFather of Kharnath
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Thank you Maenas! I got the same impression. The pic is coming about a bit light. So either this is a result of the background and the foreground clashing, or my poor photography skills. Either way it certainly needs addressed before putting this in the gallery. I tend to normally shoot my photos outside in natural sunlight (or just outside of it) and this photos used a hasty light box I created awhile back that is in poor shape. I think what we have is too much artificial light leaking through my filters.
Anyway, thanks a million for the suggestion. I had thought about the Halloween webbing, but I have had concerns that it just looked far too generic. However, sounds like you say the key is too use small wisps. I am looking for something along the lines of Bailey03's use of UHU glue for his webs in his famous Lost in the Woods project. Also I know that AndyG uses real webs with a lot of success. Anyway, still open to all suggestions and appreciate alternatives. Thanks!
Anyway, thanks a million for the suggestion. I had thought about the Halloween webbing, but I have had concerns that it just looked far too generic. However, sounds like you say the key is too use small wisps. I am looking for something along the lines of Bailey03's use of UHU glue for his webs in his famous Lost in the Woods project. Also I know that AndyG uses real webs with a lot of success. Anyway, still open to all suggestions and appreciate alternatives. Thanks!
MAXXxxx
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Spiderwebs:
depending on how you'll handle it in the future (including dusting) a few suggestions:
- http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.de/2011/12/tutorial-realistic-spiderwebs.html : looks super, but fragile as hell
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtljheSIydY or was it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DBWtuG54QU : variation of the above, instead of special varnish with hair-lack
- apparently 3rd version of the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51lSU0Odkn4 : because of the glue it may be more stable than the prev 2.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrXLX-rseng : similar method seen on MM videos, if you do it more controlled, like strand by strand it can look pretty good. I used it on my Shae figure's base. Pretty stable, but too much work,so not my preferred method.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CJ8Q1jLCbM: do you remember how you did strands and such, almost the same thing. I used it on the Souffre-Toile mini. Suprisingly strong and stable, survived multiple transports and dusting with soft brush too. Because of this it's my favorite even though it's not the most realistic.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKpMgpRWT7A: this one is new, looks pretty stable, but overkill on a mini
depending on how you'll handle it in the future (including dusting) a few suggestions:
- http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.de/2011/12/tutorial-realistic-spiderwebs.html : looks super, but fragile as hell
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtljheSIydY or was it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DBWtuG54QU : variation of the above, instead of special varnish with hair-lack
- apparently 3rd version of the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51lSU0Odkn4 : because of the glue it may be more stable than the prev 2.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrXLX-rseng : similar method seen on MM videos, if you do it more controlled, like strand by strand it can look pretty good. I used it on my Shae figure's base. Pretty stable, but too much work,so not my preferred method.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CJ8Q1jLCbM: do you remember how you did strands and such, almost the same thing. I used it on the Souffre-Toile mini. Suprisingly strong and stable, survived multiple transports and dusting with soft brush too. Because of this it's my favorite even though it's not the most realistic.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKpMgpRWT7A: this one is new, looks pretty stable, but overkill on a mini
Bailey03
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Great scene! Using real spider webs is pretty cool, you can find UHU glue on Amazon (from international sellers). Just make sure you get the version with the black cap. You can also do some cool stringy blood effects with it if you mix it with paint. There's a tutorial about that over on MassiveVoodoo. Just recently someone was telling me about using Tamiya Clear Red for the same thing. The idea is let it start to dry a bit and then make long (bloody) strings out of it. Obviously you've got to get the hang of the timing for it, so practice on some scrap first.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Wow thank you Maxxx for all of those super informative tutorials. Very cool that now I have a consolidated list of web tutorials to access. I will be sure to watch them all, but it's worth mentioning that I went with the E6000 glue. This stuff must be just like UHU with black cap. I simply touched the nozzle on one surface, stretching a thin line of glue out and anchoring it elsewhere. My next test is to see if it will maintain these properties when I mix it with blood.
In this pic I am by no means complete with my web plans, but this is just a look at how they are coming out:
In this pic I am by no means complete with my web plans, but this is just a look at how they are coming out:
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Also Max, what do you mean by "dusting?"
MAXXxxx
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well, display case or not these figures gather dust. It may take a few years but eventually they'll be dusty.
So when cleaning comes...
I use a makeup brush for this, because it's really soft. It doesn't have any problems with minis + the glue-type webs, but the really realistic beutiful ones are destroyed by it. And no, even air-sprays used to clean pc insides for example won't work. The airflow is too strong. If the dust does the web goes too.
I might try AB on low PSI setting next time, but even there I don't expect anything different. If the airflow is slow enough to keep the web intact, it won't be powerful enough to get rid of the dust.
But as I said, it's a thing for the lack/varnish based ones. The one with the glue... I can touch it, push it down a bit and won't get destroyed.
So when cleaning comes...
I use a makeup brush for this, because it's really soft. It doesn't have any problems with minis + the glue-type webs, but the really realistic beutiful ones are destroyed by it. And no, even air-sprays used to clean pc insides for example won't work. The airflow is too strong. If the dust does the web goes too.
I might try AB on low PSI setting next time, but even there I don't expect anything different. If the airflow is slow enough to keep the web intact, it won't be powerful enough to get rid of the dust.
But as I said, it's a thing for the lack/varnish based ones. The one with the glue... I can touch it, push it down a bit and won't get destroyed.
