Cheese or Meat?

SkelettetS

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someone actually (at least partly) agrees with my opinion?!? wow! chrome you´re my best friend!:D

feel all my fav subjects are discussed at this forum, goth AND meat VS veg. i wonder what\'s next...:)
 

Chrome

New member
What can I say? I just find that \"Don\'t eat that fluffy bunny\" makes more sense than \"Don\'t eat apples\"

And next I bet we\'ll start discussing something totally off in this forum... Like Miniature painting or something odd like that. lol
 

No Such Agency

New member
I don\'t know any vegans who would be offended by the question. They just wouldn\'t have a proper answer for it (unless you count \"soy cheese\" as cheese, and I sure don\'t).

Vegetarian here myself so I too chose cheese. Can\'t beat a good pizza, or homemade mac & cheese casserole. It\'s one of the things that makes the meatless diet a lot tastier, easier and more nutritious.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
You have to eat the brains and innards of an animal to consider it a healthy choice?

WTF Chrome? That ain\'t true.
 

DannyBoy2k

New member
Originally posted by Chrome
When it comes to instincts I think most of us, when we see an apple hanging from a tree or when we see a deer hopping in a field, react quite differently between the two.
We see the apple thinking: \"Mmm, apples...\"
We see the deer and we think; \"Oh, look! Pretty!\" And not until after that(If at all): \"Mmm, deer meat.\"

Well, no. In all seriousness(which the last post I made wasn\'t, it was a quote), INSTINCT says, deer food. Apple, brightly colored, probably poisonous, let\'s NOT eat it. But, we\'re more than our instincts, so we probably eat both.

And as for meat vs. veggies, two points.
1. No child is, by nature, a vegetarian. It will eat what you put in front of it, as long as it tastes good. STRAIGHT vegetarianism/veganism/what-have-you, is a learned response. The extreme of which is taking your kitty to the veterinarian since you tried to keep IT to a vegan diet(true story but I digress.).
2. Looking at the human build, teeth, digestive system, and so on, we are omnivores. We\'re MEANT to eat both meat and vegetables. Herbivores can\'t survive on meat any more than carnivores can survive on vegetables. We can survive on both.

And that\'s all I\'ll say on that matter, since it isn\'t a part of the thread subject. :)

Meat over cheese, but preferably meat AND cheese. :) A nice (cheese)burger would do me quite nicely right about now, in fact.

Originally posted by ScottRadom
You have to eat the brains and innards of an animal to consider it a healthy choice? WTF Chrome? That ain\'t true.

Actually, yes it is, in the sense that I suspect he means. Which is that, in order to get everything you NEED to be healthy, out of an animal, you need to eat it all. This would include organ meats and brains. Do correct me if I\'m wrong, though, Chrome.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
There is no benefit to eating Brains, veins, stomach lining, etc. Parts of the animal are just plain waste. No more then eating the cherry pit is a good idea.

Some offal has benefits, such as the concentration of Iron in Liver. To eat the tongue, lips, cheek meat etc. is no better for you then to eat more main muscle meat and fat.

I won\'t bother digging up any numbers or anything, that\'s all at work anyway, but it\'s a total falsehood. Intestines, for example, do not significantly hold any value for your system. They have uses for sure, but a big pile of intestines on the plate does not make for a stronger healthier you.

You defo do NOT want to eat all the animal. You can\'t even legally by Brain here in Canada. Though that does have more to do with our slaughter process and regulations. Nor would eating an eyeball help.

Where did this come from?
 

SkelettetS

New member
well i wouldnt dream if trying to convert my cat to vegetarism, even tho i can guarantee she would choose cheese before meat anytime! ;)

how we are built, digestive system etc i find secondary, the main fact is: we DO can survive without mass-murder one billion animals a day. yay i better stop now until i start to sound really rabiat, hell yeah :D did i mention i choose cheese? hallomi... yummy!
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
Originally posted by SkelettetS
well i wouldnt dream if trying to convert my cat to vegetarism, even tho i can guarantee she would choose cheese before meat anytime! ;)

how we are built, digestive system etc i find secondary, the main fact is: we DO can survive without mass-murder one billion animals a day. yay i better stop now until i start to sound really rabiat, hell yeah :D did i mention i choose cheese? hallomi... yummy!

Ahhh... The philosophical thingy about murder. Yep, disagree. My fav part about takign part in this debate with people who don\'t know me is the response I often get of \"You\'d feel differently if you had to kill the meat yourself!\". No, no I wouldn\'t.

But different strokes for different folks. While I don\'t agree with your crazy lifestyle SkelletS at least I understand your choice.

But this whole eating eyeballs and genitals as part of a balanced diet thing is truly bonkers. How about Trachea? What about hide? Meh.

So you go SkelletS! You go Goth and Veggie till the sun comes up my friend!
 

SkelettetS

New member
LOL ScottRadom; To be honest, i neither judge or preach anything, find that\'s just a waist of time (no one never listen to me anyway haha). And at least i agree with that eyeball-brain-idea, thats pure madness.
 

Donga

Active member
Originally posted by Undave
As seperate entities cheese and meat are both magnificent foodstuffs. When combined they cam become far tastier than the sum of their parts.

Hear hear! I want a Meat AND Cheese option. I\'m thinking of slow roasted beef with blue cheese!

(btw, I voted fo the Blackpool option, yack!)
 

supervike

Super Moderator
You heard it folks...You can\'t buy a brain in Canada!!!


:beer:

Incidently, I went to a hog roast a couple of weeks ago (they butchered the hog there) and he made \"chicken\" for the vegetarians!! :rolleyes:

My brother-in-law is a vegetarian now, and has been for 6 months. I keep thinking I should try it....it does look healthier, and pretty tasty.

But then I remember that meat taste freakin\' good.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
I said you can\'t LEGALLY buy a brain in Canada. Our black market brain trade is through the roof amigo! You want brain... pfft... give me an afternoon and a couple hundred bucks and I\'ll have a spread layed out for you to choose from. Want brain with an IQ of 160? No problem. Maybe go the other direction and get an 80? Done. Want one that\'s good at math, but never figured out how to talk to girls? Very easy. Want the brain of someone who knew 6 languages, one of which can\'t be English? You get the idea. I snap my fingers and 8 brains fall from the sky my friend.

It\'s a don\'t ask, don\'t tell sort of arrangement up here. Getting a brain in Canada is no harder then downloading music for free in most parts of the world.

Can\'t get brains in Canada. My God Vike. Sometimes you just don\'t know when to make with the jokes and when to open your eyes and ears and realize this world is MUCH bigger then your immediate surroundings.

Can\'t get brains here..... man alive.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Sorry, sorry, I didn\'t know you were so tetchy on the subject.


But, I am glad to see you\'ve never broken the law in Canada....:drunk::beer::beer:lol
 

Chrome

New member
Of course I meant all edible parts of the animal. You can\'t eat things you can\'t eat. It was still about emphasizing my point more than anything.
If someone says you cannot get varied and, yes, healthy, nutrition by eating different parts and products from the animal, I will not agree however.
Having a non-veggie diet can be just as good as having a non-meat diet. Same rules apply to both, you need to think more about it.

However, I do believe that most of us would agree on the fact that the optimal plate(both taste- and nutrition-wise) contains bits of everything, be it meat or plant.

And speaking of brains, as late as yesterday I was in the store looking at half a cows\' brain for about €15/kg. Never dared try it though.
 

freakinacage

Well-known member
ok scott, wtf. can you or can\'t you buy brains in canada?

if not, why (not that i would want to but am interested)
 

BPI

New member
I imagine any brain emgargo would be related to fears of human contraction of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease via Bovine Spongiform Encephafloppadopitis? :) B.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
You can not buy animal brain in Canada, and it pre dates Mad cow, or any of that stuff.

To qualify as a \"pass\" on our federal inspection process the animal must be shot through the skull. This does a number on the brain to such a point that it would not be possible to remove ay of the foreign matter (skull, hide, shell fragments if that applies) making it unsafe for consumption.

There are some places where you can apparently purchase brain as some markets (Halal, Kosher) can get religous exemption to the inspection process because their ritualistic slaughter process varies. Some of these markets sell brain, but in order to do so none of their meat has been federally inspected making it only possible to sell due to some sort of religious \"pass\" as it may be. I am sort of fuzzy on the specifics of that as the only slaughterhouse I worked at had a Muslim Priset (Imam?) come in, say the prayer, do his work with the knife... then BLAMMO! We capped that cow in the noggin\' immediately after so as to still qualify for the inspection process. You can\'t export meat from Canada that isn\'t inspected, also you can\'t grade meat (The quality of meat, vs. the pass/fail of inspection) meaning you might not be able to get top dollar for your animals if they haven\'t been graded.

Have I jacked this thread enough? I think I even began to ramble hopelessy here as well.

All very messy and interesting. Anybody have any other questions about the meat process I will gladly answer any PM\'s or they can start a new thread.

cheese is OK, Meat is best.
 

Donga

Active member
I had a mate at Uni eat a brain curry for bet. I went to Uni in Bradford, well know for two things, Curry houses and a very large muslim community. Halal butchers were everywhere.

It looked a little like grey scambled egg. He went grey and threw up outside. I was happily enjoying my \'meat\' madras at the time (what the meat was is a mystery). Cat, Dog, Tapir who knows...

Why the hell anyone would choose to eat brains is beyond my comprehension!?!?!
 
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