Fare Thee Well, Christopher Reeve

Ebonbuddha

Ebonbuddha

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My wife told me about it this morning. I was shocked.

Everybody loves you when you\'re dead. I was listening to some old tapes from the eighties and nineties. Everyone talked about how much they hated him. now he\'s a great hero. Even Nixon became a great hero. It happens.

I just wonder; why do we pity the dead? ???
 
Sand Rat

Sand Rat

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Got to agree with you on that one EB - no one wants to speak ill of the dead not even folks like Dahmer or Jim Jones.

Superstition that they may be watching us and affecting our lives from the other side perhaps?
 
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U4-Welcome

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Discussion heating up... open chill valves

Message original : barkel
Obviously that was sarcasm. What kind of pathetic ass believes it is wrong to have a change of heart!!!!!????? Is there no forgiveness in this world anymore? How dare you say that because he didn\'t care about paralysis before he was paralized that he was a hypocrite. Besides, who is to say that he did not give to charity before he was paralized? I don\'t know if he did or didn\'t. What if he did, but he simply didn\'t have a focus?

My belief is that crap like this comes from people who are so hollow themselves that they try to spoil the good of other people. Don\'t try and take away Mr. Reeve\'s activism just because he waited until he was in his 40s to become paralized. I\'m sure if he had known it would upset you so badly he would have become paralized much sooner in life.

barkel
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Mr. Reeve may have given spare change to the poor before his unfortunate accident, but he didn\'t create a world fund for research on spinal damage. He had his accident, and then he did. Little cynic in me says that if it hadn\'t been for one ill-tempered horse, he wouldn\'t have donated at all.

Don\'t get me wrong. I have nothing against Mr. Reeve. That he gave so much time and money to research is a definitely GOOD thing and worthy of thanks.

However, people calling him a hero irks me. I happen to believe that his devotion is a circumstantial byproduct of his misfortune, and that he was, in very crude terms, trying to save his own ass. I can understand that, and will certainly not blame him for it. Furthermore, this benefited a whole lot of other people who suffered from the same disabilities, which makes it all the more positive.

No, really, the only beef I have is semantic. I like my \'heroes\' less interested, that\'s all.

Oh, and for the record I don\'t see what forgiveness has to do with this.
 
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barkel

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Originally posted by U4-Welcome
Oh, and for the record I don\'t see what forgiveness has to do with this.
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Neither did I. But my other personalities insisted.:D

Actually, what I meant by that was that we should forgive him for not donating in his youth. He has donated now.

Most people will have, at some point in their lives, a moment of truth. Hopefully ours won\'t be as tragic as Mr. Reeve\'s. For some of us it will be a divorce, for some of us it will be the death of a loved one, and for some of us it will be hitting rock bottom financially, or something else. (For us El Guapo is a big, scary guy that want\'s to kill us). It\'s how we react to these life events that define us.

Christopher Reeve could have cussed God out, shunned society and spent his remaining days in a Woe-Is-Me chat room. But he didn\'t. He rose to the occasion and dealt with life. Just because you are alive does not mean you are living. And you cannot say anyone else in his situation would have done the same. We cannot know that. We cannot know that given the same circumstances any one of us wouldn\'t put a plastic bag over our head and end it all. Not until we are left without the use of our arms and legs. Hopefully it won\'t happen to us.

I am not saying his end justifies his middle. And I\'m not saying that he is a hero in the sense that a cop or a fireman or Mother Teresa is a hero. I\'m just saying he acted heroically in his situation.

And I think it is unfair to judge his good works with his past life. It makes it seem like nobody is allowed to have a change of heart. Everybody has a motive for what they do. At least his was out in the open.

barkel
 
Hieronymus

Hieronymus

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Celebrity tragedies seem to come in threes. First Rodney Dangerfield died, then Janet Leigh, (Marion Crane in the 1960 Psycho) and Christopher Reeve. Since I never have actual contact with celebrities, outside of the occasional restraining order, (and that contact is usually through their attorneys), I only see them in their movies or TV shows, which gives them a kind of life after they have died. I don\'t get sad when they die, I remember the entertainment, and court orders, they have given me and those memories are happy ones. Usually.


My favorite Christopher Reeve movie is \"Somewhere in Time\" with Jane Seymour. It was filmed on Mackinac Island in Lake Michigan.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0081534/

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Doesn\'t anyone care about Steve Reeves?
 
Sand Rat

Sand Rat

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Originally posted by Hieronymus
Celebrity tragedies seem to come in threes. First Rodney Dangerfield died, then Janet Leigh, (Marion Crane in the 1960 Psycho) and Christopher Reeve. Since I never have actual contact with celebrities, outside of the occasional restraining order, (and that contact is usually through their attorneys), I only see them in their movies or TV shows, which gives them a kind of life after they have died. I don\'t get sad when they die, I remember the entertainment, and court orders, they have given me and those memories are happy ones. Usually.


My favorite Christopher Reeve movie is \"Somewhere in Time\" with Jane Seymour. It was filmed on Mackinac Island in Lake Michigan.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0081534/

P.S.-
Doesn\'t anyone care about Steve Reeves?
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Umm, hate to be a pain in the ass here but it was Janet Leigh, Gordon \"Gordo\" Cooper (bonus points here folks), Rodney Dangerfield, Joyce Jillson (wonder if she saw it in the stars), and Christopher Reeve all in the last couple of weeks - and thats just from my news starved mind.
 
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supervike

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that was a downer...

Originally posted by barkel
Christopher Reeve could have cussed God out, shunned society and spent his remaining days in a Woe-Is-Me chat room.

barkel
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I went to the \"Woe-is-me\" chatroom before, but then I had to leave because everybody was in a self absorbed pity party.

Other chatrooms that similarly made me cringe...

\"woah!-is-me\" but it just turned out to be Fonzie and Keanu Reeves saying \'woah\' over and over again, got a little repetitive.

\'wow-is-me\' was in a similar vein, but everyone was just over active braggers..

\'horny-housewifes-need-love-too\' oops....I never went to that one, did I?lollol
 
wiccanpony

wiccanpony

Official Freak Bar Witch
please check your \"horny-housewifes-need-love-too\" e-mail......

:rolleyes:\'horny-housewifes-need-love-too\' ...................... funny how the housewifes made someone called Supervike their mascot/boytoy in their chatroom...must of been a mistake......right? ;)lollollol
 
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