Games Day Russia painting competition

Margo

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Originally posted by ralfmetal
i....move on..

Another thing worth mentioning is that the prize for the overall winner is an all-inclusive tour to UK GD. Which justifies the reasoning behind the rules -- it\'s not only a question of winning it all, but it also brings out the materialistic aspect of the competition.
 

Starfall

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Okay, if there\'s something to win (All-inclusive trip to the UK... I\'d like it!) it is reasonnable to give other people the chance to win, too. But... why does there have to be a prize?! I always thaught a GD would be something like the Olympic Games, where you don\'t want to win something but just want to be the best (or better: just be proud of having taken part). But okay, obviously there\'s a big, big difference between Olympia and Games Workshop... Just to mention the word \"fairness\"...
Nontheless it\'s just unfair to withdraw someone\'s entries due to a too high niveau... I mean, the only reasin why I\'d go to a Games Day would be entering the Golden Demon competition. Did you at least get your money back, Alexi_Z?
 
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Alexi_Z

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Originally posted by Margo
Please do stop going wild about this, guys, everything is simplier by far. Last year the judges announced that from then on the overall painting competition winners (there were three by then) can only enter the open cat. They do have similar rules at some of European GDs.

I read official rules, there are nothing about this... Maybe you have link to this ruling?

And if it was true, why judges dont move my entries to open category?
They take all my entries to right categories and only after judging say me about withdrawing...

Also I receive this oficial answer from GW: \"What we are trying to help Alegris do is to make the Russian Gaming Day a bigger and better event each year with more and more people coming along and enjoying themselves and this is also true for the painting competition, we want to get more and more people entering. What we cannot allow to happen is for the same person to win, go on and win three Golden Demons (congratulations by the way) and then enter again and win the prize to the UK for the second year running. What this will do is stop people wanting to enter, as they know they would have no chance to win, and that isn’t what we want to happen.\" (\"Alegris\" - local distributor and organizer of Games Day Russia)

Now I agree with this...
 

Infidel Castro

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But a competition is a competition....so what if the same person wins for a couple of times running? It happens in sport all the time - it\'s up to others to push to catch up if they want to win.

Anyway, it\'s a moot point, as the evidence shows there wouldn\'t be any walkover winner. The painting is of an excellent standard and will only improve - why bother limiting the entrants on past successes? It mirrors our watered-down societies where people are so fucking fragile they need someone to hold their hands all the fucking time.

Make it COMPLETELY open to ALL painters from Russia irregardless of past successes. GW are shites.
 

Jambot13

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Originally posted by shinjikun1
Originally posted by Jambot13
I think that\'s possibly territory that\'s not worth getting into again. I think the situation has all been sorted out now between those involved anyway - at least I hope it has.
What is that soppost to mean? As a miniature painter posting on a miniature painting forum I think anyone has a right to thier opinion. I think its an outrage!:mad: Never has this type of thing happened. Anyone who has an interest in GW sponcered painting events should be concerned. Whats to stop it from happenning again in other compititions, If no one voices thier dismay at this blatent show of poor sportmanship by the competition judges. I cry FOUL!

I’m not challenging freedom of speech here, but as this topic has already contributed in part to a great deal of friction in another topic (leading to it being locked, moved and a large amount of posts removed) I think it’s best to avoid going over the same territory. Sometimes self moderation is a good idea.
 

Legacy Account

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Well, it\'s done now. It\'s easy to understand why GW did it - money! They want a big UK style Games Day/GD going off and obviously don\'t want to discourage people from travelling what could be a huge distance.

Storm in a tea cup if you ask me. Perhaps some \'Elites\' sections wouldn\'t be such a bad idea. Only open to previous gold/sword winners. And the French :D
 

Infidel Castro

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lol

Oui mon brave!

lol

It\'s a funny old game, but a compo is a compo. All in I say. Apart from les bleus!

Hey, here\'s a novel idea.....we could just try and painter BETTER than the French ???
 

Jambot13

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Obviously money is the ultimate motivation behind anything GW does - it\'s a business, with shareholders who would be mightily peeved if that wasn’t the case. That’s not to say that the people who work there don’t have other motivation too though. Many of them are passionate about the hobby and really want to encourage its growth because we think the products GW make are worth promoting.

If I was just doing my job to make GW money then I’d get out and do the same thing for a business that pays me more. I get more from it than that and think that also makes me put more into it. We aren’t all evil shits counting our hordes of loot. Well, unless our reduced price staff sales and blagged figures count as loot! :D
 

Starfall

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Sad thing is, Games Workshop make a Russian Golden Demon (or Silver Hammer or Pink Bubblegum or whatever) Trophy be worth less if the best painters are always disqualified ... I mean, if you win a prize but know that another one (probably (!!)) deserves it more than you do but wasn\'t allowed to get it because of some stupid rule, could you really be happy with that? I doubt they can make the GD Event much bigger like this.


Okay, actually I don\'t, but... (sigh) It\'s just so unfair.
 

frenchkid

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Originally posted by ralfmetal
i`ve got to agree with margo ..once someone has won the sword ....yes, you are the best ....move on..go and play with the professionals...how many swords dose one man/woman want....i think the european gd`s have it right ..uk take note.:eek:

What is it to win if there\'s no competition ? I would never want jeremy/allan/thomas/ect... to be banned from the french GD just to up my chances at winning. A competition is there to reward the best and if nobody is able to do better then alexi for the next 10 years then so be it. Then maybe someone will get it right and instead of spending time crying that the best shouldn\'t be allowed to compete against them, they\'ll spend some time trying to improve to challenge the best.


Oh and get ready you english men, there\'s gona be a massive french presence at the UK GD this year :D (not me though :()
 

green stuff

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Message original : frenchkid
Oh and get ready you english men, there\'s gona be a massive french presence at the UK GD this year :D
Who? Who? Who? (Who let the dogs out ... oops, sorry about that one, been watching Shrek too often :p).

But seriously, who? I heard that a lot of the top french painters weren\'t coming :(.
 

frenchkid

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heard a lot of the french top painters were going :p
Oh and I also heard somthing about 40-50 french waaagh members doing the trip too :D
 

MarkusTay

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Originally posted by reverend
But a competition is a competition....so what if the same person wins for a couple of times running? It happens in sport all the time - it\'s up to others to push to catch up if they want to win.

Anyway, it\'s a moot point, as the evidence shows there wouldn\'t be any walkover winner. The painting is of an excellent standard and will only improve - why bother limiting the entrants on past successes? It mirrors our watered-down societies where people are so fucking fragile they need someone to hold their hands all the fucking time.

Make it COMPLETELY open to ALL painters from Russia irregardless of past successes. GW are shites.
This pretty much sums up my opinion. :(

This also ties directly into this Thread.

If, as a society, we keep holding people\'s hands to make them feel better about themselves then we are doomed to mediocracy!

I mean, on the surface it sounds like a good idea; banning past winners so that more people have a chance. If they did that here, in about twenty years times I would be able to win a Golden Demon, and that would be a real crime. lol

Maybe we should kick professional athletes out of a game whenever they scored a goal. After all, shouldn\'t the other team be given a chance to win... ? :rolleyes:
 
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Durham_red

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Originally posted by Jambot13
Obviously money is the ultimate motivation behind anything GW does - it\'s a business, with shareholders who would be mightily peeved if that wasn’t the case. That’s not to say that the people who work there don’t have other motivation too though. Many of them are passionate about the hobby and really want to encourage its growth because we think the products GW make are worth promoting.

If I was just doing my job to make GW money then I’d get out and do the same thing for a business that pays me more. I get more from it than that and think that also makes me put more into it. We aren’t all evil shits counting our hordes of loot. Well, unless our reduced price staff sales and blagged figures count as loot! :D

This somes up my feelings too. The reason I got into this job is because I love this hobby, Not for the money (though it is nice to be buy cool stuff :D) and I know this is true for alot of people who work here.

This is also the reason why we all get so worked up about subjects affecting the hobby, its cause we enjoy it and care about it.
 
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