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provoke_me
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when i went to GDLA i was surprised at what the judges picked as the final 3. i heard so many people say \" they picked that for the final 3 over that?\"
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ipaintminis
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confused........again.
ok, we are planning to attend our first GD ever. does it really cost money to enter a catagory???
we have looked all over for registration fees and cant find where it mentions it anywhere
can someone please help? we would be going to the Atlanta GD if it matters.
thank you.
ok, we are planning to attend our first GD ever. does it really cost money to enter a catagory???
we have looked all over for registration fees and cant find where it mentions it anywhere
can someone please help? we would be going to the Atlanta GD if it matters.
thank you.
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Durham_red
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Originally posted by ipaintminis
ok, we are planning to attend our first GD ever. does it really cost money to enter a catagory???
we have looked all over for registration fees and cant find where it mentions it anywhere
can someone please help? we would be going to the Atlanta GD if it matters.
I think by saying it cost money to enter, he actually means that you have to buy the Games Day ticket to be able to enter Golden Demon. As far as I know there is no charge for entering the Golden Demons in the US (or anywhere) once your at Games Day.
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Durham_red
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The cost of the Sword is anything but cheap, also so that £25 gets you into the whole Games Day and there is alot more things to do there other than Golden Demon (Though I do know some people do only go for Golden Demon)
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Einion
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As a judge at Euro Militaire I can tell you that the first thing many judges do, because they have the opportunity, is to lift the figure and turn over the entry card to see who did something.
Even apart from this, in historical modelling at least, it\'s often really easy to spot an individual\'s style so checking the card is sometimes not even necessary, not to mention that a piece might have been seen in one of the online fora beforehand of course!
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FWIW I think this changing the goalposts thing in Russian is complete bollocks. If you\'re going to run a \'first past the post\' competition then that\'s exactly what it should be! Not \'first past the post... except for previous winners\'
Orb was telling me that Adrian Bay is trying to encourage a change in the competition and judging in GD in the UK - to the Open System pioneered in US modelling shows - if he\'s successful (with help from others no doubt once they hear of the improvement) then maybe you could look forward to it spreading to GDs elsewhere, as it has in historical modelling.
Einion
You are being naive.
The judges are a bunch of random plonks who just happen to work for GW,some in retail,phone sales,whatever. Some of the judges have NO painting talent whatsoever. The ones in LA heavily favored the locals that hang at their store.
I\'ve even heard the following.:\"Dude, you are going to get second,don\'t worry about it\"
This was BEFORE any judging took place,I mean BEFORE THE FIRST CUT.
I am not saying they are all like that,but I\'ve seen alot of abuse,I\'ve been to two and won a bronze. The one before last, (LA) the Warhammer single silver went to a MEDIOCRE fig that had NO business even being there. I thought it was a joke.
shinjikun1
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well the Head judge at GD baltimore this year was Dave Taylor, Head of US Studio.........
Like I said I am sure they aren\'t all like that. However I\'ve attended GD LA twice,and a Grand Tournament once. They might have fixed the judging this time...I didn\'t have time to go.
After attending the first LA grand tournament I vowed to not go again.
We got RIPPED on the money,and they didn\'t even feed us like they were supposed to. We had to walk 2 miles in 100+ heat to the nearest restaurant and were late for the third game.
Games Days I will still go to, to compete and to gawk at all the minis.
After attending the first LA grand tournament I vowed to not go again.
We got RIPPED on the money,and they didn\'t even feed us like they were supposed to. We had to walk 2 miles in 100+ heat to the nearest restaurant and were late for the third game.
Games Days I will still go to, to compete and to gawk at all the minis.
shinjikun1
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well GTs have gone the way of the Dodo. Lets hope GDs dont follow them into the grave.
green stuff
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For the french GD (OK, not for last year), the entries are anonymous (just an ID number). All the judges are at least what would be considered level 7 or 8 painters on CMON, and often a precedent Slayer Sword winner is included in the jury.
OK, it\'s true that most of the top painters post WIP on the web before the contests.
Recent french rules state that if you won a fench Slayer Sword in the past, you can only enter one entry there after. From what I\'ve seen, instead of spending 200 hours for each entry (let\'s say 3), they spend all that time on one. You\'ve all seen the results. I haven\'t heard any complaint from the winners.
OK, it\'s true that most of the top painters post WIP on the web before the contests.
Recent french rules state that if you won a fench Slayer Sword in the past, you can only enter one entry there after. From what I\'ve seen, instead of spending 200 hours for each entry (let\'s say 3), they spend all that time on one. You\'ve all seen the results. I haven\'t heard any complaint from the winners
.SaxonAngel
nada
Canada lost their GD for this year.:~( We\'re looking at next spring.
One of last years judges in Toronto was Michael Perry. I submitted a model to fantasy single that he liked but the other two judges didn\'t. He put it in for first cut but the other two pulled it out of the cabinet. However I consider it blessed now that he touched it.
One of last years judges in Toronto was Michael Perry. I submitted a model to fantasy single that he liked but the other two judges didn\'t. He put it in for first cut but the other two pulled it out of the cabinet. However I consider it blessed now that he touched it.
shinjikun1
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hmmm I smell endangered species...
Orb
procrastinator
Trevor.......the open system of judging is described here:
Open Judging System
It\'s a very good and positive system, but in many ways may not work at GDs as the elusivity of the Demons would go; although something more than \"first cut\" certificates would help (GW has the cash at £25 a head). Another tier of smaller awards would be good to encourage the other superb painters and modellers.
The open system was used at the recent World Model Expo in Boston that Einion and I attended recently, the first time I\'ve taken part in a show like this. It\'s very common in the States.
.......World Expo 2005 if you want to see more about this comp.
Oh, and fantasy/sci fi minis are allowed too.
now thats sensible - judges should be competent modellers themselves at the very least - at Expo all judges were either silver or gold medal winners with many \"Grand Masters\" included.
Also what was cool about the French GD was the painting class - judged on painting only; then the other classes have room for the more rounded sculptors and modellers to showcase their work. The French model of GD, at present, seems to me the best of the bunch.
Adrian Bay has probably attended more shows in more countries than nearly all of us put together, so he is in a position to comment!
And £25 good value! for 6 hours of show! Get real!
Just my thoughts.....on developing and encouraging the hobby
leopardpixie
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Its all fixed! went to LA\'s gamesday 2 years ago, ..... I think that the judging is fixed! some of the models that had gotten first place, were very undeserving, and others who only made first cut should have won. But thats only my opinion. (not going to say any more!)
DragonPaint
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Originally posted by BanJo
do anyone know if there is any gd in europe in the next following weeks(exept the uk one)
You can add to your calendar the Italian GD, 10/11 December 2005
