GD 2008 - Failure imminent!

lono

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I did a WIP like this last year and failed miserably after very little time, but once again I have that post Golden Demon fire in my belly and really want to get some entries done. Rather than being secretive about my entries I\'ve decided sod it, I\'ll probably never get any of these finished anyhow, I might as well have a timeline of my failure! Updates here will probably be sporadic at best, but you never know.

If anyone should steal one of my ideas though, I do have ties with the Cosa Nostra, so don\'t think there won\'t be some really unpleasant reprisals!

I\'m aiming for four or five entries, and hoping to manage one of those at the very least!

I definately won\'t be entering 40k Single, Warhammer Single or LoTR single because I just don\'t feel the mini miniature vibe right now. I have ideas for 40k Squad, 40k Vehicle and Warhammer Regiment, but 2009 would be more likely for them.

This leaves 6 Categories that have my focus right now: 40k Monster, Warhammer Monster, Diorama, Duel, Large and Open.

So...

Flagellant Swinging A Fish!
During my GW employment I was told that if you were to break Warhammer into as few influences as possible, it would be made up of a little medieval history, a little dark fantasy and a fair smattering of Monty Python. Bearing that in mind, what could be better than a Flagellant with a huge fish full of spikes?

This is an idea I\'ve had for ages and I drew this concept sketch back in... 2005 perhaps.

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Well I got up really early today and was ultra bored, so I started to mess about with Super Sculpey. In a couple of hours I had completely finished, baked, sprayed and inked this rough of what an Open category attempt at this could be like.

flagellant-mock.jpg


As you can see it\'s very raggedy and abstract, his left hand is posed completely unnaturally (but that\'s what practice runs are for working out right?), it\'s missing details, it\'s rather big and it\'s become a bust!

So questions:

Good idea?
Good pose?
And the biggie. Should I make it as a bust, which would limit it to the Open category only, or do a full body model including legs (and probably shrink it a fair bit too) which would mean I could put it in the Open or Large categories?

I think right now I\'m veering towards doing a bust, but the main factor in that is I\'m a bit scared of how good a job I can do of accurate posing of a full model that is this dynamic.

Oh, and I started out on some Iron Warrior Daemon prince stuff a while back. Well I\'m starting over on that one, making it a bit more rooted in Chaos, with the intention of it being a 40k Monster attempt.

It may not end up being their still living Primarch Perturabo in the end, I\'m not sure. But anyway, here\'s a concept sketch I whipped up for him.

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the catman

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the fish is just great.
now you need a holy hangrenade and a killer rabbit:D:D:D

I would do bust as well because then you only need to concentrate on the top half.

or you could do two flaggerants (sp?) one with the bunny on its shoulder eating an ear!!!

but I wouldnt do the primach guy because its all been done.

the catman
 

demonherald

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I ain\'t ever seen a good true Iron Warriors DP...so the concept idea there will be interesting to see how it turns out.. The fish wielding nutter is a tough call..Love him and the concept....large scale or open..well both tough tough categories.. If I were you I would err on the side of large scale as open has basically ended up being a eavy metal showcase ..I mean outsiders can\'t eat their painters at their competition that just ain\'t cricket dear boy..
I look forward to seeing your enthusiasm slowly die out :beer:
Though you were gonna get something finished in The IP contest ...
 

darklord

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love the fish fingerer. one thing that struck me was wether it would look odd as a bust with the whole havings arms flailing around bit? i think large scale would maybe be best
 

lono

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Originally posted by demonherald
Though you were gonna get something finished in The IP contest ...
Hangs head in shame! I managed a base... in fact I stormed my way through doing a base. Once I got to applying paint to the actual mini, well things got less productive. I could use the excuse that I am pretty nocturnal at the moment, and don\'t have any other decent method of lighting, but in truth, I know it\'s just that I\'m beyond crap!

Anyway

I\'m glad that the fish seems to be getting positive feedback right now. I\'ve always thought it\'s a really groovy idea but was worried others might find it a bit wacky. Guess that was a foolish thought to have with you lot!

Perhaps Large is a better idea, and to tell the truth I think it would be a good challenge for me to make a full on model. I\'m just scared I\'ll bugger it up! I\'ll order up an Andrea armature or two anyhow so I have something to play about with and try out poses at the very least.

Also, as a little aside about the Open, I\'ve tried to deny it for the longest time, but the way they were with it this year... even I - GW Supporter Boy - pretty much think it\'s a complete fix. That\'s not to say I don\'t think that the winners didn\'t deserve it, they were all really well done. But they were the only models from the final cut that were even taken out of the cabinet and looked at by the judges under proper lighting. That\'s just BS as far as I\'m concerned. There were others there that were good enough to at least get their attention.

Anyhow, rant over!
 

DaN

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Get Bill to help you with the fish :D
I\'m liking the face on him, even if the rest of his anatomy is a bit twisted :D

Good luck with either/both!
 

Jericho

Consummate Brushlicker
I think the fishmonger is the better idea. Slapping someone with a fish with a nail through it is just brilliant lol
 

lono

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Insomnia seems to be a regular thing for me right now, but last night at least I managed to get myself to do a bit of sculpting. I just kinda started out doing a bit of musculature and ended up with this. Nothing to do with my GD entry plans to tell the truth, but it\'s all practice.

Pretty much every area is unfinished in some way or another but I\'m relatively happy with how it\'s going. the fabric has barely been worked yet so it looks a bit off.

I\'m thinking he could become some sort of sci-fi pyromancer.

Oh, and I forgot to do the ruler thing in the picture. He\'s not exactly small, currently just shy of 4cm high.

pyromancer-sculpt-only.jpg

pyromancer.jpg
 

TokenArtGuy

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I like the idea of the fish wielding flagellant as a bust. Forgeworld produced a bust of an iquisitor at a table with his hand on a book, so I don\'t see why you can\'t have a guy swinging around a floppy fish. You might want to put scars on his head due to spiky fish floppage. Posing looks good. Thanks for posting, great idea that fits Warhammer (IMHO).
 

lono

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I have a lot of unfinished projects laying around my work area, one of which is a large scale wizard I started making a fair while back then lost interest in. Well, I noticed that the new thing I\'m doing pretty much fits the legs I\'ve started on that. The two weren\'t made to go together but I\'m pleasantly surprised how well they line up.

Here\'s the combo with some rough work showing how I\'d incorporate the robes.

Any thoughts?

pyromancer-2.jpg

pyromancer-2-proportions.jpg
 

AinuLainour

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Oooooooooo I like it a lot! Looking good. Sorry I\'m doing homework so a constructive post isn\'t something I can do right now :D
 

lono

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Originally posted by AinuLainour
Oooooooooo I like it a lot! Looking good. Sorry I\'m doing homework so a constructive post isn\'t something I can do right now :D
lol Yeah, I always used to find that my brain shut down as soon as I started doing homework too.
 
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