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lono

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Originally posted by the catman
your saying I need to improve on being neat but im not \"allowed\" to try anything like nmm or even highlighting.???
That\'s exactly what I\'m saying. Paint several models with nothing but careful application of base colours. Nothing more, just the basics. Focus on getting that as neat as possible.

Once you have improved your brush control, you can go back to them and start to work at shading and highlighting those base colours, but before you do, you need the solid, smooth basework done first.

It might sound a bit boring, but it\'s the first step to getting better.

And I hope you don\'t feel like I\'ve set out on a mission to just rip you apart here, but you have stated some very lofty goals, and the only way you are going to get anywhere near to them (in my opinion at least) is through frank, honest and hopefully constructive criticism.

If you had just come on as a standard noob showing off your work I\'d have been nicer, but as you\'re trying to be the youngest Slayer Sword winner ever, the gloves have to come off somewhat with regards to how I view your efforts!

Keep at it though. And using John Blanche as inspiration is certainly not a bad thing as far as GD success. If you could boil his style and influences into a very well painted entry then you\'d put yourself well in the judges favour. He pretty much epitomises the GW world and background in his works, and that\'s what a GD winning entry is all about.
 

the catman

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ok well iv just finished sculpting a sratch built adeptus custodius guard so when the last blob of green stuff has dryed Ill spray it and start in the basecouts like lono says.
do you think I should start a wip just on that model???

well anyway Im not sure what to do (since the model is destined for gd) should I enter this model in yb and make it more likely to get a deamon (because iv scuplted loads of the model). or should I enter it in 40k single and try and win the sword and gold ???
iv also got another entry planned out wich will start to take place in november (when I get my pay/pocket money). of a (wfb) wich hunter from mordheim is on a big rock. here im going to try osl and maybe nmm.
the thing is I can sculpt it to look like a 40k inquisitor. and then enter in yb or 40k single???

so what do you think??? once iv removed the mold lines on the plastic on the sculpted model ill spray and start to paint.

then ill probabbly post a wip on here.:D

the catman
 
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sg2009

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dont think about single miniature or any of the main catagorys:) concentrate on youngbloods and improving your painting skill

and yeh definatly do a w.i.p


sam
 

Bill

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Originally posted by the catman
ok well iv just finished sculpting a sratch built adeptus custodius guard so when the last blob of green stuff has dryed Ill spray it and start in the basecouts like lono says.
do you think I should start a wip just on that model???
Yep, that\'d be a good way for us to follow your progress

well anyway Im not sure what to do (since the model is destined for gd) should I enter this model in yb and make it more likely to get a deamon (because iv scuplted loads of the model). or should I enter it in 40k single and try and win the sword and gold ???
I\'m sorry if I sound harsh, but even with nearly a year to go, and if you became one of the best painters on the site, winning sword and gold, or even a trophy, is very unlikely. I would enter YB if I were you, getting into the finals in an adult category would be a more realistic target than a trophy, at this stage at least.

iv also got another entry planned out wich will start to take place in november (when I get my pay/pocket money). of a (wfb) wich hunter from mordheim is on a big rock. here im going to try osl and maybe nmm.
the thing is I can sculpt it to look like a 40k inquisitor. and then enter in yb or 40k single???
Sounds good, but I\'d focus on really doing well with one idea first (like others have said) working in stages with help from us forumites on a WIP thread.

so what do you think??? once iv removed the mold lines on the plastic on the sculpted model ill spray and start to paint.

then ill probabbly post a wip on here.:D
Looking forward to seeing that :) I\'ll be glad to help you out.

the catman

~Bill
 

Ekkanus

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i definately think you should do a WIP thread going from your sculpting, to priming, to basecoats etc. I don\'t profess to know a hell of a lot about painting etc, but i\'ll try and help out with as much as i do know :D
 

the catman

New member
Iv done the sculpting and am going to take of the two mold lines I can see.
then ill prime and drybrush whote this evening or tomorrow.
sound like a plan???

the catman
 

the catman

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so what colours do you think I should use???
im thinking.
1-gold
2-red
3-black
4-silver
5-parchment (is this white)
6-flesh
7-grey (this is for the case the base)
 

DaN

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Sometimes it\'s hard to make a decision on colours without seeing the mini :p

Those colours sound ok, but it depends in what order you put them and where :)

PS. Parchment sounds to me more of an off-white, like bleached bone
 

Thunderhawker

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Well, if you are thinking about a competition piece you may want to reconsider the drybrushing. If you want consistent feedback, just worry about blocking in the colors, then posting that, getting feedback, and working from there. I am in no way against drybrushing, as it is a staple of some of my technique, but I have noticed that most \"winning\" minis are done in layers. If they are drybrushed at all its usually very early in the process and almost impossible to notice in the final product.
 

Ekkanus

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i agree on the drybrushing thing.....i\'ve noticed in a lot of winning minis (including youngbloods) it\'s all about the drastic layering, highlighting and blending of a mini. Still think you should put up a WIP photo of what you have so far before we can comment on colours. Oh and DaN\'s right - i don\'t think i\'ve seen any other parchment (Save for maybe Tomb Kings) that is white - it\'s almost always bone colour.
 

the catman

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Originally posted by Thunderhawker
Well, if you are thinking about a competition piece you may want to reconsider the drybrushing. If you want consistent feedback, just worry about blocking in the colors, then posting that, getting feedback, and working from there. I am in no way against drybrushing, as it is a staple of some of my technique, but I have noticed that most \"winning\" minis are done in layers. If they are drybrushed at all its usually very early in the process and almost impossible to notice in the final product.

I mean because I drybrush straight after I spray the model so that I can pick out deatail easier. sort of like a guid coat if you spray white.
 

TokenArtGuy

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Warning, long winded post-

Painting neatly and precisely is what model painting is all about, putting the paint exactly where you want it. Once you have mastered that skill everything else becomes a whole lot easier. The advice offered up by everyone is very solid. Getting one model exactly how you want is better practice than painting up a bunch that you hate, and a more efficient use of time.

Something that might help is properly thinning your paints and some sort of additive to break the surface tension on the paint. Flow enhancers, Future Floor Wax, or even brush licking should help your brush control significantly (there are a bunch of articles on this site on that topic). One thing to note is that some paint colors contain poisonous materials for pigments (cadmium red is a good example), so be careful with the brush licking.

Another thing that helps a lot is good brushes. I would recommend buying really good brushes over new minis. They will save you money in the long run as they last longer if properly taken care of. The Winsor & Newton Series 7 are wonderful, other brushes mentioned in previous posts are probably great too.

I\'m in agreement with the others, as I have experienced this myself, master the basics and learning the advanced stuff is much, much easier. There are a lot of amazing painters here, make sure you benefit from their suggestions.
 
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