GW makes yet another stupid decision!

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BanJo

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After an discussion on the GW forum, one of the GW mods said this regarding the YB category rules:

\"As with all other categories you can use a 40mm base if it \"looks nicer\".
The restriction on base size was intended to be a guideline as to the size of miniature appropriate to the category.
Single man-sized or smaller models are the appropriate models in this category.
So Orcs, Chaos marauders, empire swordsmen would all be fine as they are supplied with 20 or 25mm bases. Ogryns or minotaurs would not be ok as they are supplied with larger bases.\"

Now, this is a change from last year, meaning that models such as ogres and 40k orc warbosses will not be allowed.

This is just so stupid and silly, denying the YB\'s to use the same models as used in the \"grown\" up single categories.

I already though it was silly that mounted miniatures were not allowed, but this is just going to far.

Torstein:flame:
 
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Marmoset

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Damn right mate! I complained very angrily to the bastards, and I saw you on the forums too. I won\'t be able to enter my ogre now. Yet for some shitty reason the only exception is terminators. What shite.

Happy painting

~Bill

PS sorry for my bad language, I\'m really pissed off right now :flame::flame::flame::flame::flame::flame:
 
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RedSevenBlue

New member
WTF! THAT IS BULL! DOES THIS MEAN IF I DO A VINDICARE ASSASSIN FOR THE \"GROWN UP\" CATEGORIES, HE HAS TO BE ON A BASE ONLY 2X AS TALL AS HIM?! WTF IS THAT BULL!
 
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demonherald

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Agree with all just doesn\'t seem right..It\'s about time they opened the youngbloods up a bit and included monsters and cavalry models as sub-categories within this now massive category....Or maybe it\'s better to encourage youngsters into the hobby by excluding them ....making late changes to waste their work in progress.. (like the ogre by the way Marmoset ..the skintone rocks.) Then maybe put a big sign up in all the stores saying ..

PLEASE IF YOU ARE UNDER 14 DON\'T BUY MODELS ON A BASE BIGGER THAN 25mmX25mm AS THEY ARE ONLY FOR GROWN UPS...

The grass roots won\'t grow and flourish if they keep geing danced on by giant clown shoes........
 
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Marmoset

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We\'re allowed to use 40mm bases for models that come supplied with smaller bases than that, yet we aren\'t allowed to use models (which in any other categories-adult ones-are deemed single miniatures) which are intended for 40mm bases in the first place, and come supplied with them. And we aren\'t allowed to enter mounted minis. I have written many paragrpahs to this effect on the sodding GW forums. All they did was clarify what they meant. Abuse of the youngblood!

:flame::flame::flame:

~Bill
 
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Swordwind

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If you feel that strongly about it dont enter.


Edit: I dont mean it in a arsehole way, just dont give them the benefit of your time if you dont like what they do.
 
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Albert Moreto Font

Member
well its a pity for all those kids who wanted to enter something \"bigger\" but in all the other countries its the same rule, square 20 or 25mm, or round 25mm, and on foot, so its about adjusting it to the rules everywhere i think

EDIT: for the examples of previous demons i see some judges themselves broke the rules lol allowing a 40mm base win lol lol
 
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demonherald

New member
There is an alternative to not etering Marmoset..

The changes between this model and your last are massive why not do another within their parameters increasing your level again..develop the model put in the work and time needed to get the model in the position for a trophy then put your opinions to them from the winner\'s circle..
It\'s a lot of work and dedication required but believe me the pleasure of winning just 1 trophy is a fantastic feeling and a real privelege..
don\'t get dishearteed just take it as a bit of a knock and find the determination to do better.every time.
 
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KingM

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To play devil\'s advocate, limiting the range of model\'s that can be entered into Youngbloods does mean everyone in that category is competing on a more even playing field. I guess otherwise there is a temptation to choose to do the biggest/most complicated model that is allowed in the category
 
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Onis Lair

New member
Ugh... i gotta agree here, that is pretty stupied. It\'s almost like telling the youngbloods they are not good enough to paint anythign but rank and file figures. Plus on the average the bigger figures and mounted figures cost more so you would think that in an effort to make more money they would happily let youngbloods paint bigger figures. Then again, who knows what lurks in the mind of GW.
 
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hakoMike

Active member
I would think that GW\'s long term goal would be to get more people into the hobby. Next logical thought: what about limiting yb\'s to single small models would get more people into the hobby?

uhhhh......

Yeah, I got nothing.
 
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Dammekkos2

New member
Think yourselves lucky youngbloods. When this category was first introduced, entries had to be PLASTIC! And this was at a time when all plastic minis were utter crap. I don\'t know why this was. GW logic I suppose. Perhaps they thought youngsters couldn\'t afford proper metal minis.
 
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Modderrhu

New member
Sorry, but I have to agree with KingM on this one. It would make a very unbalanced category if mounted minis, as well as large minis with 40mm standard bases are allowed. Bigger and more complex models have more scope for conversion, and generally have bigger impact than single 28mm minis. I believe it would be sillier if GW copied all the \'grown-up\' categories to the youngbloods. How much more would a person be upset if their 9+ single mini got beaten by a 7 dragon, just \'cos the dragon had more visual impact?

However, I can certainly understand the ire. The \"Kiddies aren\'t good enough to paint anything bigger\" attitude is implied, but I doubt it\'s intentional.
 
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petey

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Silly rules. At least allow large 2 legged creatures (excluding giants) and mounted models. Restricting choice will restrict imagination and scope and quality of models entered, wont it?
 
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Medved

New member
now i may not be liked for this comment, but i think the yB rules are a good thing. there is nothing to stop you entering the other categories too. Tommy Juskus won a bronze in duel the same year he won gold inYB\'s. Us oldies don\'t get to enter it do we.

in france you can\'t put a mounted mini in the single mini category, in the lotr class you can\'t convert the mini at all :eek:

i think the intention of the YB category is to offer an entry and incentive to the younger hobbyists, so lets not scare them all off with scratch built winners or some model that is more expensive than their monthly pocket money. (sometimes mine too) ;):D
 
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emopainterguy

New member
I have to say I\'m agreeing with KingM, Modderrhu, and Medved. I don\'t necessarily think the rule is entirely fair though, I don\'t see a problem with mounted entries (as long as they are mounted on horses, or wolves or what not, just not monsters), and I think the timing really sucks. The best thing GW could have done would have been to wait till after the GDs before announcing this, or waiting till next year to put the rule in effect (but still announce it now). I can understand the frustration of the youngbloods who have put a lot of effort into producing great minis only to find out that they can no longer enter it, and now have to scramble to have an entry ready. I guess there really isn\'t much you can do about it though apart from talking it over with the GD staff or what not, and even then I doubt it would produce any results. :(

Edit: Is it still possible for youngbloods to enter the \"grown up\" categories? If it is possible it might not be a bad idea to enter the minis that are too large into the respective category in the \"grown up\" competition. May not win, but making the first cut, or finalist are still impressive feats, and at least your hard work isn\'t wasted.
 
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