GW prices going up. AGAIN!!
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generulpoleaxe
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atacam, lono hasn\'t worked for gw for a while now mate.
whats rackhams price structure changes going to be like atacam?
(hope it isn\'t going to be too bad a rise)
whats rackhams price structure changes going to be like atacam?
(hope it isn\'t going to be too bad a rise)
Yeah, I did used to work for them, and I guess some of my thinking here may sound like I\'m towing the GW party line, but it really is what I think, not just me regurgitating what they told me to think!
I\'ll happily call GW out if they do something crap (Possessed! New squig hopper! Not factoring in the lack of a fourth Lord of The Rings film and tie in game into their profit projections) and obviously repeated price rises is a bit dubious on their part, but I actually have to pay full price for their stuff now, and my reaction to these threads is still that I don\'t really care. £5, £10 or £30, if I really like a mini I\'ll pay for it. Simple as that.
And am I right in thinking the Rackham thing is less to do with pricing, more to do with their new strategy on pre-paints and whatnot?
Edit - D\'oh, I take too long writing my posts!
I\'ll happily call GW out if they do something crap (Possessed! New squig hopper! Not factoring in the lack of a fourth Lord of The Rings film and tie in game into their profit projections) and obviously repeated price rises is a bit dubious on their part, but I actually have to pay full price for their stuff now, and my reaction to these threads is still that I don\'t really care. £5, £10 or £30, if I really like a mini I\'ll pay for it. Simple as that.
And am I right in thinking the Rackham thing is less to do with pricing, more to do with their new strategy on pre-paints and whatnot?
Edit - D\'oh, I take too long writing my posts!
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Originally posted by steelcult
But you have to admit that at least the cost of oil argument makes more sense than the cost of the mold argument.
The cost of raw materials is a miniscule percentage of GW\'s costs - look it up in their annual financial reviews.
Owning a massive retail chain is a difficult thing to do these days in the UK. It\'s this that is forcing price hikes and it\'s this that\'ll kill \'em in the end.
Very soon people won\'t be able to afford to buy whole armies. That\'ll mean they stop playing their games. If that happens (continues to happen...) they are well and truly FUBAR...
Writing\'s on the wall I reckon.
DrEvilmonki
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Originally posted by Spacemunkie
Originally posted by steelcult
But you have to admit that at least the cost of oil argument makes more sense than the cost of the mold argument.
The cost of raw materials is a miniscule percentage of GW\'s costs - look it up in their annual financial reviews.
Owning a massive retail chain is a difficult thing to do these days in the UK. It\'s this that is forcing price hikes and it\'s this that\'ll kill \'em in the end.
Very soon people won\'t be able to afford to buy whole armies. That\'ll mean they stop playing their games. If that happens (continues to happen...) they are well and truly FUBAR...
Writing\'s on the wall I reckon.
ANd yet the other main players (PP and Rackham) are not priced better - you currently just need smaller armies to play the games. Only problem with that stratergy (from a company profit point of view) is you don\'t need to buy as many figures to make an army!
Personally I don\'t view GW figures as expensive - well no more so than I did 16 years ago (relatively speaking of course). Their greenstuff, glue, brushes etc ARE overpriced (and I still buy the greenstuff from them because of the convenience).
@Bill I do find your comment on GW new stuff being crap a bit amusing considering what I see you painting on a consistent basis.
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PP, Rackham et al don\'t have a sprawling international network of retail outlets to keep running, therefore they should make a much larger profit per figure. They will also be better able to absorb fluctuations in the costs of raw materials, distribution and the like.
Fact is, GW are at the pinnacle of \'standard\' mini prices. People are beginning to realise that there are alternatives out there - evidenced by Warhammer dropping to 4th place in that list. Bear in mind that almost all of the people playing Warmachine would have been playing 40k or Fantasy 5 years ago. It\'s a sizeable chunk of your market to lose....
The quality of their product will be meaningless if they continue to haemorrhage customers at the rate they appear to have been. GW fans can be as positive as they like. The numbers are not lying!
Fact is, GW are at the pinnacle of \'standard\' mini prices. People are beginning to realise that there are alternatives out there - evidenced by Warhammer dropping to 4th place in that list. Bear in mind that almost all of the people playing Warmachine would have been playing 40k or Fantasy 5 years ago. It\'s a sizeable chunk of your market to lose....
The quality of their product will be meaningless if they continue to haemorrhage customers at the rate they appear to have been. GW fans can be as positive as they like. The numbers are not lying!
and now for something to break up the monotony
SPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!
COME MY LITTLE WOODEN BOY!!!!!
I AM THE TERROR THAT FLAPS IN THE NIGHT, I AM THE ATHLETES FOOT ON THE FOOT OF CRIME!!
snarf snarf liono.
there was a russet in the middle of the road bigger than jake\'s cow.
go on you know you want to answer where these come from?
SPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!
COME MY LITTLE WOODEN BOY!!!!!
I AM THE TERROR THAT FLAPS IN THE NIGHT, I AM THE ATHLETES FOOT ON THE FOOT OF CRIME!!
snarf snarf liono.
there was a russet in the middle of the road bigger than jake\'s cow.
go on you know you want to answer where these come from?
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I think the price rise sucks as well, especially the way it was sneaked into WD right down the borrom of the page.
Unfortunately, GW are a business out to make as much profit as possible. They have totally turned around the market expecially in the UK over the years and made it ossible for others to flourish as well. I don\'t think they will ever price themselves out. They are survivors who know how to capture their market.
If you look around other companies prices are increasing as well. Wargames Foundary already gone up Gripping Beast in May. I think we may in for a round of them.
But as said above - GO to Ebay and trawl and cruise. You will be amazed at what you can get, especially if you use a sniping tool. I just picked up a Dark Elf Beastmaster on Manticore for a total of £14 including shipping - Good saving I think - Just watch you don\'t get carried away!
Unfortunately, GW are a business out to make as much profit as possible. They have totally turned around the market expecially in the UK over the years and made it ossible for others to flourish as well. I don\'t think they will ever price themselves out. They are survivors who know how to capture their market.
If you look around other companies prices are increasing as well. Wargames Foundary already gone up Gripping Beast in May. I think we may in for a round of them.
But as said above - GO to Ebay and trawl and cruise. You will be amazed at what you can get, especially if you use a sniping tool. I just picked up a Dark Elf Beastmaster on Manticore for a total of £14 including shipping - Good saving I think - Just watch you don\'t get carried away!
Yup, GW Retail Stores have been hemorrhaging cash over the last few years whereas their direct sales, particularly online, keep doing well.
The list is for North-America only though, not reprasentative of things as a whole. The rankings would undoubtedly be quite different if you expanded it to include the entire world.
What numbers do you mean? Gilivan\'s ranking list doesn\'t prove what you are saying because there aren\'t numbers in it, not that what you\'re saying isn\'t necessarily the case.
As far as that list goes, Warhammer and 40k could actually be selling twice what they were in 2005, but Warmachine and Hordes just happen to be selling more too.
If memory serves me correctly the sales of 40k have always heavily outweighed the sales of Warhammer in the US anyway. Statistically 40k could account for 99% of the sales on that list and GW could have actually increased their market share.
And Stubert, don\'t worry, most of us are (I hope) still perfectly calm and relaxed about this in reality, we just like an excuse to moan, or have a go at people moaning, or have a go at people for not moaning, etc. If you want to see some real fun, try posting something about firearms and your stance on them! lol
philologus
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Yes, that is fun!
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Dammekkos2
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Probably the profits, less than $ 1million the last time I looked.
generulpoleaxe
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there are the cheap plastic 20mm kits lol
Quiksilver
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Just to show how slaes orientated GW is now...
www.games-workshop.co.uk
The link takes you directly to the STOREFRONT!!!!!
All of our instore tournaments are now pay to play; you have to buy a brand new army to participate
also there is a check-system...
you MUST buy a LORD, a HERO, TWO TROOP CHOICES, ONE SPECIAL and ! RARE to even begin participating!!!! :cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing:
Does GW make anyone fell like dieing?
Like this little fella! :moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon:
www.games-workshop.co.uk
The link takes you directly to the STOREFRONT!!!!!
All of our instore tournaments are now pay to play; you have to buy a brand new army to participate
also there is a check-system...
you MUST buy a LORD, a HERO, TWO TROOP CHOICES, ONE SPECIAL and ! RARE to even begin participating!!!! :cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing::cussing:
Does GW make anyone fell like dieing?
Like this little fella! :moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon:
Yeah, I spotted that a few days back. Made me wonder what sort of trouble I\'d have ended up getting into over it if I still worked at GW. I\'d have argued that it was an insanely bad thing to implement until I was blue in the face. Really awful!
Woo hoo! That sounds like what my old department came up with. I\'m partly responsible for your pain! :twisted:
Kinda like this by any chance? Northern Europe have done it for the last few Summer Campaigns and it was hugely successful and popular. There are only 12 GW retail stores in the regions NE covers but they had something like 3,000 people doing it each time, could have been more.
Made our department tons of extra cash. All it takes is a card and a stamp and the kids go crazy for it, it\'s so easy, like taking candy from a baby, only the candy is money, and the babies are stupid, filthy, hated customers! Mwahahaha!!! :twisted: :twisted:
Although it was never used as a blackmail method in any way in my day, it was free to take part in and if the customer completed the stages they got a free blister. See, not all of GW is bad, some are more like Santa than Satan!
