I AM FED UP

all right then, i am not one of those who care too much about the ratings here in cmon, but descending from 9.3 to 8,9 in so many few votes with my dark elf is way too much, im fed up with snipers, i think i will never post again in this site. THere must be someone who REALLY hates me or something:(
 

TAB Studio

New member
They do not hate you ..they just do not like their lack in talent..
If you leave they win.. and the rest of us that admire and learn from your example lose..please reconsider.
you have a very positive influence on so many that enjoy you and your work it seems a shame
 

Klute

New member
You answered your own question there Albert.

Dont care about the rankings scores.
Just be satisfied with the remarks and comments you get.
The rankings and scores have gone to hell as far as Im concerned. Its still nice to get a good score but its not worth loosing sleep over.

Just wait and see how many people reply to this thread begging you not to stop posting your minis.
That is the true feeling of the genuine people in the cmon community.
Dont judge things on the actions of a few arseholes.

And I will start it off.

Please dont stop posting your minis. They are freakin awesome.
 

green stuff

Active member
Originally posted by Klute
Dont care about the rankings scores.
Just be satisfied with the remarks and comments you get.
The rankings and scores have gone to hell as far as Im concerned. Its still nice to get a good score but its not worth loosing sleep over.
Exactly my thoughts ... takes a drink.
 

Crackpot

New member
Just wait and see how many people reply to this thread begging you not to stop posting your minis.
I BEG YOU NOT TO STOP POSTING YOUR MINIS!!! :D:D:D
To hell with those ratings, comments are more important.
 

Orb

procrastinator
I come on here to see work like yours.
DO NOT LEAVE!!!!! please!

I\'m glad you make us aware of your work via the forums too.

The snipers are obviously voting stupidly low, so hopefully the snipe remover will remove those and it will get back to where it deserves to be

<<raises glass......drinks>>
 

Ritual

New member
I think one of the reason voting is like it is nowadays is that many snipers have figured out how the system works and snipe more \'subtly\'. But it\'s still enough to make a difference. If you look at minis who rate at between 8.9 and 9.1 you can see quite large discrepancy in quality. Much more than the measly 0.2 suggests... A lot of minis get pushed down to around 9 where they disappear off the T10L7 and get left alone...

The only thing you can do is to say \'f-ck it!\' and who cares, really? Everyone knows that, for instance your Elf, Albert, is good stuff!
 

green stuff

Active member
Message original : Orb
The snipers are obviously voting stupidly low, so hopefully the snipe remover will remove those and it will get back to where it deserves to be
Unfortunately, I\'m not so sure of that now. It be nice to be able to see a graph on how votes are distributed for a mini. If they vote massively X* points under the mean score, the anti-sniper software tends to still not notice them.

I\'m quite surprised Albert with all the trophies and general praise you get on your art that you still let yourself be affected by the snipers\' attitude. Cheer up and show them right with your next mini ;).

* : people who have been sniped intelligently will know what the value is.

[edit]Damn, Anders beat me to it ;).[/edit]
 

laurence

Brushlover
schnipers

I wouldn\'t let it get to you Albert.

Good painting speaks for itself.

Keep posting mate. You\'re a truly great painter and anyone who visits this site is lucky to have the pleasure of seeing the quality of work and artistry you so kindly and freely display.

Please don\'t let the idiots of this world ruin it for the good people.

Post on posting on.
 

BanJo

Member
Albert, don\'t even think of leaving! You are a great painter, with enourmous talent, and if you were to go it would be very sad. Just give a fu**ck about those snipers!:D

Torstein
 
ok guys i will keep posting my minis, i repeat i don\'t mind too much about the marks (knowing some people that paint only and for this purpose). It\'s just about justice, but i won\'t get my mind affected by such jerks, i am here not to get high numbers but to show how can i get to paint and receive ideas and criticisms from you guys, this is what this site is worth of! just wait my next mini, no one will have guts to snip it!:D
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by Klute
Just wait and see how many people reply to this thread begging you not to stop posting your minis.
That is the true feeling of the genuine people in the cmon community.
Dont judge things on the actions of a few arseholes.

And I will start it off.

Please dont stop posting your minis. They are freakin awesome.
D\'Accord.

Please don\'t stop posting.
 

Arjay

Member
Originally posted by Ritual
I think one of the reason voting is like it is nowadays is that many snipers have figured out how the system works and snipe more \'subtly\'. But it\'s still enough to make a difference. If you look at minis who rate at between 8.9 and 9.1 you can see quite large discrepancy in quality. Much more than the measly 0.2 suggests... A lot of minis get pushed down to around 9 where they disappear off the T10L7 and get left alone...

I agree with this totally. Once upon a time snipers gave 1s, 2s and 3s, these votes would be removed eventually but now they\'re giving 5s and 6s, these don\'t get removed. I think it\'s about time Chern overhauled the system, only registed users should be
allowed to vote and all votes should be logged and the log should be viewable by all.

As for your work Albert, a few months ago it would have been sitting happily on 9.7 or 9.6. That\'s certainly what it deserves but I don\'t think it\'ll even get close the way things are at the moment.
 

Ebonbuddha

Active member
**drinks**
I have an idea.
If someone wants to get votes or comments about miniatures, they should send a private messgae to the serious people first. Like myself.:) That way you can get a good solid score before they can snipe you down. It can be hard, but make a list of people who you know will be fair to you. I was thinking this might help because you are ranked when you hit 50 votes. Wouldn\'t make it harder for snipers to knock you down?
 

Einion

New member
Pardon the minor highjack Albert, didn\'t want to start a thread of my own for this since it doesn\'t bother me that much... my Wolfen Headhunter.

7.2? Down from 7.3 or 7.4 last night. Yay, I feel the love :flip:

Einion
 
well guys i dont want to give the impression of oh poor albert he is all day worried by the ratings, its just a problem that the site has in general and that can be easily solved
 

DrEvilmonki

Active member
I agree with all that has been said. It is work like yours which inspired me to pick up a paint brush again after 10 years!

It really is a shame but some people are sad arses. I am sure all the solutions have been debated before but my ideas would be having two scores sepearting members from non members and giving memners a maximum of 1 vote. this would mean the non members could still participate in the site which I think is cool but the members score would be more correct.
 

green stuff

Active member
Originally posted by Albert Moretó Font
its just a problem that the site has in general and that can be easily solved
I\'d like to know what you are suggesting?

If it\'s get people to log in before they vote, it\'ll turn into a popularity contest IMHO. We\'ve all seen comments like : \"I wish I could rate this an 11.\" :|~ How would the painter be expected to progress with comments like that ;)?

If it\'s weed out the 5, 6, and 7s when the mini is in the 8-9 area, then it wouldn\'t be fair because people would get all their friends to vote high as soon as possible.

If it\'s show a distribution graph so we can figure out if the mini is being sniped or not, then I think it would make the best of both worlds, that way you could report the pic and an admin/moderator could see what to do about the snipe scores (but then again, they\'re already busy enough as is ;)).

All I wanted to say, is that a solution, if there is one, isn\'t that simple. Let\'s just hope the little pricks will grow up soon enough ;).
 

dauber22

New member
This pretty much covers it...

Originally posted by Klute
You answered your own question there Albert.

Dont care about the rankings scores.
Just be satisfied with the remarks and comments you get.
The rankings and scores have gone to hell as far as Im concerned. Its still nice to get a good score but its not worth loosing sleep over.

Just wait and see how many people reply to this thread begging you not to stop posting your minis.
That is the true feeling of the genuine people in the cmon community.
Dont judge things on the actions of a few arseholes.

And I will start it off.

Please dont stop posting your minis. They are freakin awesome.

Can\'t improve on the way Klue said it, so I\'ll just say I agree with him. Don\'t let \'em get to you.
 

Arjay

Member
Originally posted by green stuff
If it\'s get people to log in before they vote, it\'ll turn into a popularity contest IMHO. We\'ve all seen comments like : \"I wish I could rate this an 11.\" :|~ How would the painter be expected to progress with comments like that ;)?

Why would it turn into a popularity contest? If you had to leave a comment in order to vote then it might but I don\'t think it would otherwise. The majority of people aren\'t that pathetic that they\'d only give 9s and 10s hoping that they\'d receive likewise in return.

And if someone can\'t be bothered registering or logging in then I don\'t see any problem with not allowing them to vote. They can view the images but let them only click \'next\' rather than vote.
 
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