freakinacage
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trousers look good but that arm looks light a right nightmare to paint with all those veins. don't envy you. am surprised that you let them use your likeness for the torso sculpt though, i know how private you are...
Kingdom Death Man Hunter WIP
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Crayfish
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This looks really promising! I really like the trousers, alot! The sculpt has a bit i-dont-know-whats-going-on-here-and-why-does-he-walk-around-with-a-weird-looking-stick kind of a feel to it. But neat paintjob sofar!
I have to agree with the color on the jacket, perhaps the grey green only slightly more graygreen then blackish.
I have to agree with the color on the jacket, perhaps the grey green only slightly more graygreen then blackish.
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Hey, they pay me BIG bucks for the likeness of my ab's! BIG bucks my friend!
Thanks for the comments and crit's guys!
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Okay, so poking around on this guy today. I had given a little thought to putting some real color, birght green and stuff onto the odds and ends on the belt and stuff. I decided that even at the risk of havingthe model all blend in together I'd rather see him look more like the horror movie villain in worn out old dusty style colthes and tuff than go with some colors that might've popped more. Any thoughts on that?
Any way, a little bigger pics this time. The last pic is from the angle I kinda imagine the light coming from, only in a sort of sloppy halo around the mini instead of being sourced from one specific kind of sunny source. Any thoughts on this? I was calling all the bits and pieces done, unless anyone has something to point out? The leather on the scabbard, working, or not? The gun?
Thanks to everyone so far!
BPI
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Hi Scott, the muted tones of the belt pouches works for me, nice use of subtle colour there. Can't see any need for super bright bits, although the beads around his wrist might be nice as gemstones?
The gun looks nice, the saucepan by his knee less so (unless there's just too much light reflecting to show the shading properly) & I still can't tell what the hoops by his hip are? I assume you've decided having chosen to make them metallic
Scabbard, perhaps just a touch more yellow toward the top, although once the metals are on I might change my mind, actually, I already have, just a touch darker shading on the left & toward the bottom
The side shot from above sells the coat to me far better than the straight on shots, very nice :good:
Bits that might not be complete yet... Hand by saucepan, coat brown lingering on fingertips & diiferentiate between flesh/bone/exposed meaty bits at the join. Kneepads, just a touch creamier rather than white? Are they going to be metal rimmed? Top of hat brim, just a touch of wear, smooth colour makes it look a bit new despite the notches.
Fascinating stuff, I'm thoroughly enjoying your updates, keep up the good work that man.
Cheers, B.
The gun looks nice, the saucepan by his knee less so (unless there's just too much light reflecting to show the shading properly) & I still can't tell what the hoops by his hip are? I assume you've decided having chosen to make them metallic
Scabbard, perhaps just a touch more yellow toward the top, although once the metals are on I might change my mind, actually, I already have, just a touch darker shading on the left & toward the bottom
The side shot from above sells the coat to me far better than the straight on shots, very nice :good:
Bits that might not be complete yet... Hand by saucepan, coat brown lingering on fingertips & diiferentiate between flesh/bone/exposed meaty bits at the join. Kneepads, just a touch creamier rather than white? Are they going to be metal rimmed? Top of hat brim, just a touch of wear, smooth colour makes it look a bit new despite the notches.
Fascinating stuff, I'm thoroughly enjoying your updates, keep up the good work that man.
Cheers, B.
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
TY BPI!
the saucepan thingy is a bear trap sort of deal. I will defo work the shading from middle of it down to the bottom. Don't know why it looks so jacked up!
I think the metal thingies I painted are horseshoes. Not sure though. As for the bracelet I was thinking black gems to represent some kind of rosary beads he's taken. But for sure glossy gems!
Good point about the hand, and the rest of it. No, I wasn't going to metal rim the pads, should I? And maybe I'll glaze them over a little (Like maybe sepia) and re-highlight with ivory instead of the menoth white highlight. Or maybe just a little glaze will do. Thanks for looking amigo!
the saucepan thingy is a bear trap sort of deal. I will defo work the shading from middle of it down to the bottom. Don't know why it looks so jacked up!
I think the metal thingies I painted are horseshoes. Not sure though. As for the bracelet I was thinking black gems to represent some kind of rosary beads he's taken. But for sure glossy gems!
Good point about the hand, and the rest of it. No, I wasn't going to metal rim the pads, should I? And maybe I'll glaze them over a little (Like maybe sepia) and re-highlight with ivory instead of the menoth white highlight. Or maybe just a little glaze will do. Thanks for looking amigo!
Coat sure looks great in this sideshot.
Okay, take a deep breath now; I get the feeling you're starting to rush on those bits and bobs
(Or maybe I'm just jealous of the speed it's progressing.)
A rich mini like this, those thingies just work towards enhancing it, take your time, or a break from this guy, if you want this one to be your very best, your well on your way, but it only starts here. So a quick review with my eagle eyes and undisputable good taste.
Scabbard: Looks nice, blending could be smoother and deeper shading around the metal parts.
Pouches: The khaki ones look nice, they grey ones get lost in the pants, some more darlining between them to separate and define.
Round things under pouches: I'm not holding the minis so can't be sure, but I saw it more like a lasso/whip. Whatever it is, metallics is not helping there, i'd opt for another strategy.
Round plate/bear trap thingie: If it's to be metals, beat it up to death, dirt, weathering, all you got.
Dead hand: Like BPI said, I'd also say it's not gory enough, dark brown/red and purple/black
where the bone meets the meat, like it was alive not too long ago.
The thing wrapped around the side of it's torso: Is that supposed to be claws? From what?
That's a weird bit.
Whatever it is, it ain't right right now. The color, which is halfway between the skin and coats, reduce the impact of both areas and mostly ruins everything, do something else with it. I'm thinking dead flesh, somewhat like the dead hand lower.
Pistol: Pretty nice, the wood on the front side is much lighter than the back side, needs to be darker for the golden trim to pop. I wouldn't bother with highlighting so much here because of said trim. A glaze of something on the barrel could help, I like skin tones there, but I'm weird like that.
Kneepads: I quite like those, the trim could maybe be a darker color, but I'd avoid metallics here as well.
That's the fiercest critisism I can come up with. Hope you don't hate me for that. Well, it's your mini after all, so you can do whatever you like, it's my opinions that's all.
I have faith in you, shogun of saskatchewan, and I'm sure you can make this a grand mini, with enough patience
Okay, take a deep breath now; I get the feeling you're starting to rush on those bits and bobs
(Or maybe I'm just jealous of the speed it's progressing.)
A rich mini like this, those thingies just work towards enhancing it, take your time, or a break from this guy, if you want this one to be your very best, your well on your way, but it only starts here. So a quick review with my eagle eyes and undisputable good taste.
Scabbard: Looks nice, blending could be smoother and deeper shading around the metal parts.
Pouches: The khaki ones look nice, they grey ones get lost in the pants, some more darlining between them to separate and define.
Round things under pouches: I'm not holding the minis so can't be sure, but I saw it more like a lasso/whip. Whatever it is, metallics is not helping there, i'd opt for another strategy.
Round plate/bear trap thingie: If it's to be metals, beat it up to death, dirt, weathering, all you got.
Dead hand: Like BPI said, I'd also say it's not gory enough, dark brown/red and purple/black
where the bone meets the meat, like it was alive not too long ago.
The thing wrapped around the side of it's torso: Is that supposed to be claws? From what?
That's a weird bit.
Whatever it is, it ain't right right now. The color, which is halfway between the skin and coats, reduce the impact of both areas and mostly ruins everything, do something else with it. I'm thinking dead flesh, somewhat like the dead hand lower.
Pistol: Pretty nice, the wood on the front side is much lighter than the back side, needs to be darker for the golden trim to pop. I wouldn't bother with highlighting so much here because of said trim. A glaze of something on the barrel could help, I like skin tones there, but I'm weird like that.
Kneepads: I quite like those, the trim could maybe be a darker color, but I'd avoid metallics here as well.
That's the fiercest critisism I can come up with. Hope you don't hate me for that. Well, it's your mini after all, so you can do whatever you like, it's my opinions that's all.
I have faith in you, shogun of saskatchewan, and I'm sure you can make this a grand mini, with enough patience
Yes.
I don't see why you can't use glazes (say of Green) in the shadow areas to make the coat POP as the colours of the trousers already are showing (to me at least) a touch of cool green in them. Doesn't have to be a full on wash just a subtle toning.
I think the amputated hand needs a touch of colour. Remember to think of lividity, as a butcher you should be familiar with the colour of tissue where the majority blood has been drained but the Fatty tissue is still coloured. A touch of palid yellow would give that effect.
As for the metallics, I can't see why a rim on the kneepads shouldn't be metallic, but I'd definitley increase the dark tone Vallejo Airbrush Black metallic could be your best friend here.
Around the beartrap I think that there is a tiny overpaint of metal at the top (Ooops BT,DT,GT,WiO).
But the thing that's making my fingers twitch is the pistol. The Brass is looking too golden to me and needs toning down as well as a little bit more attention on the trailing portions of the brass. Then strengthen the brown wood close to the brass with a darker brown.
I'd also strongly suggest that the barrel of the weapon would look better if the metal had a touch of blue wash giving it a "Case hardened" look. You'll need to keep the blue incredibly pale on the lit sight and darker on the shadowed side.
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Thanks guys!
The gun- Agreed it looks a little too golden. Probably as I was trying to paint it gold! But now I see that brass is the way to go. I think I'll add some green into it as well. Good eye peeps!
-The bear trap! YIKES! Does look like I messed up a little bit there. I don't know if it's overpaint or one of the opposing teeth poking out some. Either way, it'll be fixed
-Dead hand! I did a little more work on it. I like the yello idear, I'll give it a shot.
-In this shot the thing wrapped around it's torso has had zero work! My thought was well used wooden stakes. Currently it's just the same color as the flesh and the coat as I am a sloppy painter.
-Green in the shadows. Good eye DR/Mike on the pants, Green/grey is the color I am using with the black for the leather color. I have added some green to the shadows, US Olive Drab as well as straight black. What kind of green do you reccomend?
-I also think the horshoe idea is going to go, and I will paint those up as rope. Probably to match the stuff from the gallows.
Much appreciated! Wasn't that long ago I had to keep getting told to thin my paint, so I'm more than happy to get these tips. TY!
The gun- Agreed it looks a little too golden. Probably as I was trying to paint it gold! But now I see that brass is the way to go. I think I'll add some green into it as well. Good eye peeps!
-The bear trap! YIKES! Does look like I messed up a little bit there. I don't know if it's overpaint or one of the opposing teeth poking out some. Either way, it'll be fixed
-Dead hand! I did a little more work on it. I like the yello idear, I'll give it a shot.
-In this shot the thing wrapped around it's torso has had zero work! My thought was well used wooden stakes. Currently it's just the same color as the flesh and the coat as I am a sloppy painter.
-Green in the shadows. Good eye DR/Mike on the pants, Green/grey is the color I am using with the black for the leather color. I have added some green to the shadows, US Olive Drab as well as straight black. What kind of green do you reccomend?
-I also think the horshoe idea is going to go, and I will paint those up as rope. Probably to match the stuff from the gallows.
Much appreciated! Wasn't that long ago I had to keep getting told to thin my paint, so I'm more than happy to get these tips. TY!
If you are thinking of weathering the coat I'd suggest using the same colour as the trousers but obviously well diluted, therefore you could use the US Olive Drab as a 'harmonisation' throughout the whole mini.
Other than that I'm kinda stuck cos I'm at work (lunch time) and can't look at the paints to give you a help. However if you want him to look Grim, Dark & Gloomy with the colours that you are using you'll need to remain in the softer olive drab/uniform range rather than a bright plant organic green.
Since I've seen the trailer for Solomon Kane:
It keeps making me think of your mini.
(oh and yes looking forward to the movie as well.)
Oh and spot the deliberate error in the picture.
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BPI
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Scott, I'll post this here as an internet image search for "Gary Gianni" "Solomon Kane" might provide you some useful visual reference
@DragonsReach - Hi DR, I don't know how big a fan of Howard you may be but are you aware of the REH Fiction "The Savage Tales Of Solomon Kane" with illustrations by Gary Gianni (who I'm going to guess you're familiar with). I sold a couple of copies of the limited edition, leather bound, gold tipped pages, slipcased, extra sketchbook, blah, blah, blah edition many years ago & it's a very nicely presented piece of work. The Book Palace in London still seem to have copies but I can't find a neat page link (easy search though).
I can't see the deliberate error in the photo but looked for long enough to be really bugged by the splotchy black effect shoved over his shoulder & the background
Cheers, B.
@DragonsReach - Hi DR, I don't know how big a fan of Howard you may be but are you aware of the REH Fiction "The Savage Tales Of Solomon Kane" with illustrations by Gary Gianni (who I'm going to guess you're familiar with). I sold a couple of copies of the limited edition, leather bound, gold tipped pages, slipcased, extra sketchbook, blah, blah, blah edition many years ago & it's a very nicely presented piece of work. The Book Palace in London still seem to have copies but I can't find a neat page link (easy search though).
I can't see the deliberate error in the photo
but looked for long enough to be really bugged by the splotchy black effect shoved over his shoulder & the background Cheers, B.
Prophecy07
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Take a look here, BPI. Those aren't claws, they're actually an ammo belt. Personally, I think it's the weakest part of the sculpt, but once he gets some paint on it, it should be fine.
http://poots.com/peoples/kingdomdeath/files/512/photo705
http://poots.com/peoples/kingdomdeath/files/512/photo705
Aye, glad to hear that, was really the biggest flaw I saw. I think stakes would work fine, but not ammos, as Proph pointed, how could such unsmooth bullets work other than blowing up in one's face?
Other than that, I think you should listen to DR, he knows best
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Okay.... less than ideal lighting in the over the shoulder shot for sure....
The black gem effect does NOT work in that shot! I must re-do. I think much more shading for the under parts fo the wood on the gallows. And lots of other work to do.
How's the severed hand now?
Are the lasso things by the belt an improvement?
Anything else?
Man, after spending this much time on a mini and being about half done... the next mini I paint is going to get BLASTED away in a single sitting I think!
The black gem effect does NOT work in that shot! I must re-do. I think much more shading for the under parts fo the wood on the gallows. And lots of other work to do.
How's the severed hand now?
Are the lasso things by the belt an improvement?
Anything else?
Man, after spending this much time on a mini and being about half done... the next mini I paint is going to get BLASTED away in a single sitting I think!
Okay.... less than ideal lighting in the over the shoulder shot for sure....
The black gem effect does NOT work in that shot!
Ok try re-painting all them black and use a single line of Space Wolf Grey on the lower portion then white spot on the upper surface. Less is more for shiney black.
I think much more shading for the under parts fo the wood on the gallows.
I agree with you on that, but give the grain a dilute wash of something like VMC German Camoflage Black Brown to emphasize it. Also older untreated wood goes a silvery grey, so you could use that on the leading edges of the "gallows" to show age.
How's the severed hand now?
Looking a little better but I think it could go a tiny touch lighter/yellower. Just my opinion though.
Are the lasso things by the belt an improvement?
Oh Yes
Anything else?
Yep the Sword scabbard, don't know if it's deliberate or accidental but the tonality of the brown is spot on to me.
@Mickc22; Close. The Frizzen lid is closed. After firing it would be pushed forward, and with smoke still issuing from the barrel like that it'd be too soon to have re-primed the weapon. The weapon looks as if it's been re-primed but not cocked.
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Thanks Mike/DR
Yeah I'm glad you like that brown on the scabbard. In trying to do stuff to make all the brown areas seem different than one another I glazed the hell out of it with GW purple wash (diluted quite a bit... probably could have done it in 1-2 glazes of full strength in hind sight).
For the silver grey gallows wood, do you figure like a Space wolves grey would do the trick? I'll maybe give it a shot. Should I maybe work a little grey into it closer to the mid tone, and add more silver grey highlight as well?
I'm gonna try for the ropes and maybe start on the skulls tonight and tomorrow before work (lord permitting!). Very encouraged by the comments and crits so far.
Thanks everyone!
Yeah I'm glad you like that brown on the scabbard. In trying to do stuff to make all the brown areas seem different than one another I glazed the hell out of it with GW purple wash (diluted quite a bit... probably could have done it in 1-2 glazes of full strength in hind sight).
For the silver grey gallows wood, do you figure like a Space wolves grey would do the trick? I'll maybe give it a shot. Should I maybe work a little grey into it closer to the mid tone, and add more silver grey highlight as well?
I'm gonna try for the ropes and maybe start on the skulls tonight and tomorrow before work (lord permitting!). Very encouraged by the comments and crits so far.
Thanks everyone!
Prophecy07
New member
space wolves gray is waaaay too blue for what you want. I'd go with a fortress gray. maybe a codex gray, but that's probably too dark.
I think you need to paint the stake belt a little different shade, as it is it just kind of gets lost in the coat/skin/hat/scabbard mix. You need some contrast there.
I think you need to paint the stake belt a little different shade, as it is it just kind of gets lost in the coat/skin/hat/scabbard mix. You need some contrast there.
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Oh for sure prophecy, I haven't even touched the belt yet! I was thinking similar to the pants for that.
