Lady Nolwen

Holger Schmidt

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Just updated my online gallery http://www.fantasyminiatures.de with pictures of a miniature by Adiken Miniatures called Lady Nolwen. A picture will soon be posted at CMON. It is a very nice miniature which reminds me a liitle of Fenryll miniatures.
Comments and questions are welcome.

Holger Schmidt
http://www.fantasyminiatures.de
 

Holger Schmidt

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The mini is now an CMON:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/?id=37097

@ Vincegamer
Thanks for your comment.

Holger Schmidt
http://www.fantasyminiatures.de
 
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U5-Boubou

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D\'Oh !

I have a big doubt here... Nolwen, like Nolwen from Star Academy 2 ??

(French TV show, a star search contest)
 

finn17

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Bit strong?

Originally posted by vincegamer
The blues are absolutely stunning, but that is one hideously deformed figure.
Not perfect I agree, but \'hideously deformed\'? As one of my coleagues used to say, \"I wouldn\'t climb over her to get to you\"lol
 

vincegamer

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Originally posted by finn17
Originally posted by vincegamer
The blues are absolutely stunning, but that is one hideously deformed figure.
Not perfect I agree, but \'hideously deformed\'? As one of my coleagues used to say, \"I wouldn\'t climb over her to get to you\"lol
That\'s just cause you haven\'t seen me lol

Seriously though, her right leg is separated from her body in a bad way that resembles a compound fracture, and her arms and legs are all disproportionately long (like that word) for her torso size. Then there\'s the eyes.

But of course I also think the new Red Lioness is hideously deformed. Someone needs to check her into a clinic for Bulemia/Anorexia.
 

dauber22

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The paint job is superb and the figure seems no more deformed than Rackham\'s Fianas asn she at least carries a sensibly sized weapon.:D

and no, Vince, no need to comment on the size of your \"weapon\"lol
 

finn17

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Hmmm...

Originally posted by vincegamer
That\'s just cause you haven\'t seen me lol
You will have to post a pic and let me be the judge of that...:D
Seriously though...you do have a valid point but it would take someone with your \'eye\' to really notice it.
I must be a sick man however, \'cos I think the Red Lioness is quite horny. Perhaps it\'s the Wolfen in me however, that is just attracted to boneslol
 

vincegamer

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Originally posted by finn17
I must be a sick man however, \'cos I think the Red Lioness is quite horny. Perhaps it\'s the Wolfen in me however, that is just attracted to boneslol
I\'m a prick when it comes to realism. I prefer a woman whose arm won\'t snap in two by the weight of her sword. (And if someone big enough did pick up that sword its hilt would snap off due to the weight of the blade and thinness of the hilt - I know too many swordsmiths)
 

finn17

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It must be your training...

Originally posted by vincegamerI\'m a prick when it comes to realism.
No Offense, but isn\'t this a handicap when we are dealing with the \'fantastic\'? There is an old phrase used in the theatre, \"to will the suspension of disbelief\". It\'s supposed to imply the positive effort required on the part of the audience to actually believe that three men on \'hobby horses\' actually represent cavalry etc.
It does stick in the throat on occasion, but the alternative is to prefer Audie Murphy to John Wayne.
 
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vincegamer in a mini store :
\":eek: Wizards ? Elves ?? You must be kidding me. Listen pal, I don\'t believe in those, ok ? Give me some good old-fashioned realism.\"
:flip::bouncy::bouncy::flip:lol:innocent: <--- random smileys inserted to make sure this was taken as a joke
 

Sand Rat

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Hate to say it guys but I kinda agree with vince here - sure, I\'m willing to suspend my disbelief to a point (this is all fantasy of one sort or another unless one paints historicals) but I would like my fantasy in somewhat believeable packets, not bulemics with six foot swords who are supposed to be combatants. I like the figure sculpts on the Ikore range for example, but not most of the weapons.
 

Nomis

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Try reading some of the Elric or Corum books.

My memory of their physical descriptions were that they would be unlikely to be able to wave a table knife about for long.

But then of course they had magic weapons didnt they!
 

finn17

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Horses for courses...

If you want gritty realism, there is plenty out there.

I really don\'t see the logic of buying into the fantasy genre though and quoting physics. Whose to say the swords aren\'t made of a much lighter material, who said gravity is the same, perhaps they are magic, perhaps they just ate all their wheaties...:D
 

dauber22

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Originally posted by finn17
I really don\'t see the logic of buying into the fantasy genre though and quoting physics.

S0, does this negate the whole concept of painting \"realistically\" or the use oif concepts of physics in painting NMM and SENMM and gems and...

\"What do you mean my SENMM doesn\'t look right?!? Tha\'ts what it\'s supposed to look like in that world.\" :D
 

finn17

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It could I suppose...

Originally posted by dauber22
S0, does this negate the whole concept of painting \"realistically\" or the use oif concepts of physics in painting NMM and SENMM and gems and...

\"What do you mean my SENMM doesn\'t look right?!? Tha\'ts what it\'s supposed to look like in that world.\" :D
I suppose if you take it to it\'s logical conclusion, you could paint a miniature black and just say it came from a world with no colour. I think that\'s stretching the concept a little too far though. However the notion of people wielding unfeasibly large weapons is one of the founding principles of at least one genre of fantasy, is it not?
 

dauber22

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Originally posted by finn17
However the notion of people wielding unfeasibly large weapons is one of the founding principles of at least one genre of fantasy, is it not?

lol I fear I must concede this point lol
 

vincegamer

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What genre of fantasy is that?
Frazetta fan myself.

I have never been a fan of the kind of fantasy books where there is magic and physics only works to a point. Good example is the Young Adept series by Piers Anthony. Tell me why does wood burn in the magical world but gunpowder does not? It\'s really the same thing happening. For some unexplained reason mirrors still reflect light but if you line two up perfectly in a cylindrical chamber which is non-reflective and shine light into it, your laser won\'t work. When does the physics stop?
Terry Pratchet on the other hand did a great job with his Disk World series because physics DOESN\'T work. It really is magic. Everything. A camera actually has an imp inside painting the photographs; lightning is spears thrown by thundergods \"established meteorological fact\"; the gun works not by combustion but by a belief in the evil that will come out the business end.
I don\'t mind a world where you have magic, but only when it\'s the world we know embelished with magic. If you start changing too many basics, I\'m totally turned off because I don\'t know what rules apply and what don\'t. I can\'t remember if it was Asimov or LeGuin who said in creating a world you can get away with one change that is an impossibility in the real world (ansible) but more and your audience can no longer relate.

That said, a light weight sword simply wouldn\'t do any good. I\'m speaking from experience. I\'ve put on armor and wielded sword and shield. You need the mass to actually knock your opponent off his feet. If you go lightweight, then you are going for quickness and the ability to slip between armor plates (i.e. rapiers).

Of course in the end it is all merely subjective, and I haven\'t bought a Red Lioness but I have bought I-Kore\'s Knight of the Spirit. Buy what you like.

I\'m scared by what I started.
 

finn17

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This is one of those circular, unwinnable discussions...Joy!

Originally posted by vincegamer
I\'m scared by what I started.
lol

As long as no one is under the delusion that there is either a right or wrong answer, then intellectual debate along these lines is just food for the mind:bouncy:

Chinese food mind you, we\'ll be hungry again in an hour or twolol

IMO fantasy worlds are intellectual concepts created (normally) by an author to serve his/her plot. I think that the fact that they generally break certain accepted \'laws\' is part of the definition of fantasy.

Terry Pratchett\'s work is greatly underrated I feel because his fantastic ideas are obscured to a certain extent by his humour. I think that a lot of people dismiss his work because of this. After all, there is a long tradition of humourless SF. It\'s almost part of it\'s definition. (I know SF isn\'t the same as fantasy, but there is a huge overlap IMO).

I personally don\'t think that proportionalism (is that a word?) fundamentally affects the \'basics\' as you suggest.

Speaking also from experience, of fencing, I can assure you that a lightweight sword does work, and perhaps work best against heavy armour. Heavily armoured knights are incredibly effective...against other heavily armoured knights. Agincourt is a classic demonstration of how a heavily armoured force can be devastated by an opposing force armed merely with sticks (cunningly forged into longbows, but sticks nonetheless). Would an unmounted armoured knight fair well againt a skilled opponent armed with an epee?

At the end of the day, it\'s art. Picasso never suffered from a diversion from realism. You pays your money and you takes your choice....Personally, I find the Fianna type model no less acceptable or believable than the Thrud-based barbarians:flip:
 

dauber22

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Originally posted by finn17

As long as no one is under the delusion that there is either a right or wrong answer, then intellectual debate along these lines is just food for the mind:bouncy:

Of course wha you meant to say was: As long as I\'m not under the illusion that I\'m right and your wrong... lol lol lol

I whole heartedly agreed, though. I just always worry someone might take it too seriously, because I\'ve been known to occassionally play devil\'s advocate just to stimulate a little debate. :innocent:
 
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