Merry Uses the force to Defeat Witch King!
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No Such Agency
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Huh. The Jedi in \"Star Wars\" and the hero-kings of \"Lord of the Rings\" are just two sides of the same coin. An elite who completely, and \"rightfully\", control the destinies of the peons who surround them. Even Frodo, the ring-bearer, is a humbler version of this idea, for he is an aristocrat, though the social order in the Shire is admittedly less rigid and more egalitarian than those of the Old Republic, Gondor or Rohan. Notice how noblewoman Eowyn is the one who fells the Witch king, and commoner Merry (also not a \"man\"), valiant though he is, merely gets the assist...
Oh, sorry, this isn\'t a sociology seminar?
Oh, sorry, this isn\'t a sociology seminar?
are you sure its the force?
I have two points to raise.
Number one, it looks more like Merry is singing \"STOP! In the name of love, before you break my heart\"
Point two. I have secretly wished I could use the force for some time now. Unfortunatley, I would use it for things like making the remote control float over to me when I am comfy on the couch. Maybe that is why I cannot attain Jedism....lol
I have two points to raise.
Number one, it looks more like Merry is singing \"STOP! In the name of love, before you break my heart\"
Point two. I have secretly wished I could use the force for some time now. Unfortunatley, I would use it for things like making the remote control float over to me when I am comfy on the couch. Maybe that is why I cannot attain Jedism....lol
Chrispy
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He\'s probably going \"No!! You squashed me kidney pie you bastard!!\". That\'d upset any hobbit! 
A little off topic, but was anyone really disspointed with the Witch King? I kept having this visin of him with flame for eyes, a dark hood was good frot the first two, now let\'s see some lazer eyes!!
A little off topic, but was anyone really disspointed with the Witch King? I kept having this visin of him with flame for eyes, a dark hood was good frot the first two, now let\'s see some lazer eyes!!
No Such Agency
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I dunno, it might turn out cheesy. But I guess PJ and co. could make it non-cheesy, if anyone could. I thought he was fine, despite having less screen time than \"Gondorian #3\".
Originally posted by Chrispy
He\'s probably going \"No!! You squashed me kidney pie you bastard!!\". That\'d upset any hobbit!
A little off topic, but was anyone really disspointed with the Witch King? I kept having this visin of him with flame for eyes, a dark hood was good frot the first two, now let\'s see some lazer eyes!!
yeah I was, I really don\'t like is helmet, They could have definetly made a more menacing helmet. For those who know it , there\'s a good exemple of what he should have looked like in \"chronique de la lune noir\" it\'s a french comique and it has this character who would make a perfect witch king.
I was a bit disapointed when I saw he was a normal ringwraith + hemet. Isn\'t he supposed to have his hood back, with a crown resting on an invisible head?
Hey, how come you can see the crown when the rest of him is invisible? on the other hand, how can you see the black robes of any of the ringwraiths.....
Hey, how come you can see the crown when the rest of him is invisible? on the other hand, how can you see the black robes of any of the ringwraiths.....
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Treacherous_1
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ever watched hollowman?
or invisible man? same principle! dress him up all you like but the crowns not gonna magically fall to the ground passing through his body. hey if you did the same as they do in hollowman then if you threw paint at him he would take physical form. well thats if it was possible of course.
or invisible man? same principle! dress him up all you like but the crowns not gonna magically fall to the ground passing through his body. hey if you did the same as they do in hollowman then if you threw paint at him he would take physical form. well thats if it was possible of course.
stormwarning
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if merry used the force i wouldnt be suppised
not to mention less screentime than the apple with the super market sticker that keeps appearing in the movie. It\'s in the first one 16 times! Sorry just had to point out that I have no life.
If you have no Idea what I\'m talking about, check the seen in the first movie where Aragorn throws an apple at pippin after he complains about no second-breakfast.
DennisMech
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There\'s a lot of things like that. There\'s one shot I know of where there\'s a jet trail in the sky. One a lot of people noticed was when faramir is riding out of Minas Tirith and everyone is crying, this one woman is giving a big fat grin for the camera. Not to mention the Hobbit children who seem to travel around from the shire to helm\'s deep to Minas Tirith. Oh, and when gandalf helps Merry up onto his horse, and his staff is in the right hand it switches to the left in the next (though this could be Merry\'s force powers at work). Peter Jackson cameos as the midget looking corsair on the boat carrying the whip in ROTK, though his other cameos still elude me.
bah! Still great films.
They\'re not really invisible. They\'re baseically whats left of the old kings, dust and souls. To put it shortly, they\'re \'bodies\' are unseeable without putting on the ring or haveing some such other power.
Also. I think all us DnD fans out there need to give Gandalf an award for most consecutive use of a level 3 spell (daylight). It almost makes you think that all gandalf can do is make light with his staff and remain multi-lingual (though I know better
).LouisCypher
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LOL :bouncy:
As long as we\'re on the topic of LotR and RotK, this thought has been bugging me. Am I the only one... Well, are Dedwrekka and I the only ones who wanted to see this scene?
Aragon et al ride up to the Black Gates and arrogantly declare that Sauron surrneder himself to them to face justice. Instead of the gates opening to display the assembled might of Mordor, I really, REALLY wanted a little guy with a pencil mustache to pop up over the top of the wall and catapult a cow at them lollol
Aragon et al ride up to the Black Gates and arrogantly declare that Sauron surrneder himself to them to face justice. Instead of the gates opening to display the assembled might of Mordor, I really, REALLY wanted a little guy with a pencil mustache to pop up over the top of the wall and catapult a cow at them lollol
vincegamer
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It\'s like Terry Pratchet says. Most people just don\'t see what they don\'t want to see. Their brains won\'t let them.
That scene was filmed. The actual guy from the book is known as \"the mouth of Sauron\" and is a Black Numenorian.
The actor that played him is the guy with the bad teeth (mad max\'s sidekick) from the mad max movies. Real name Bruce Spence.
http://www.theonering.net/movie/cast/spence.html
I am not surprised he was not in it considering the vast number of changes Jackson et al made. But, after all the flack I took over my last batch of complaints, I\'d best leave it there. Oh, they filmed the interplay between Gandalf and Saruman at Orthanc too.
