Music industry reluctantly embraces file-sharing technology

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Evil Dave

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Originally posted by AinuLainour
How the fu*k is one going to make a successful living out of music now?! :flame:
By touring, ticket sales and merchandise is the artists bread and butter. Artists make very little from actual CD sales.
 

fieldarchy

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yup tis true. The CD sales are just a little extra in the equation. For the most part the trick is getting the music on the radio, creating a fan base and then have the demand for large venue concerts selling \"limited edition\" souvenirs for high price at the concerts themselves. That\'s where the money is.
 

Evil Dave

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Originally posted by AinuLainour
How the fu*k is one going to make a successful living out of music now?! :flame:
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by \"successful\"?
Is successful to you a modest house, two cars, a couple of kids, or a 60 room mansion on MTV cribs while you hang out at the playboy mansion?

I mean really, If I got to tour all around the world making only a little more than I make now, say $150K a year, and doing something I enjoy, I would consider that success.
 

AinuLainour

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Originally posted by fieldarchy
yup tis true. The CD sales are just a little extra in the equation. For the most part the trick is getting the music on the radio, creating a fan base and then have the demand for large venue concerts selling \"limited edition\" souvenirs for high price at the concerts themselves. That\'s where the money is.

Fair enough :)

@Evil Dave - That\'d be very successful imo. Successful is being able to rely on music as one would on your average career.
 

Evil Dave

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Originally posted by AinuLainour
Originally posted by fieldarchy
yup tis true. The CD sales are just a little extra in the equation. For the most part the trick is getting the music on the radio, creating a fan base and then have the demand for large venue concerts selling \"limited edition\" souvenirs for high price at the concerts themselves. That\'s where the money is.

Fair enough :)

@Evil Dave - That\'d be very successful imo. Successful is being able to rely on music as one would on your average career.
Oh, well hell, dude, then the loss of CD sales will not hurt the average artist at all.
In fact, one could say that offering their music for free increase their chances of getting a larger fan base and bringing more people to a concert.
They now no longer have to rely on the radio, and can get recognized straight through the internet.
You probably wouldn\'t buy a CD of someone you\'ve never heard, but you probably won\'t mind downloading a song of someone you never heard just to see how they are.
Hell, the last three concerts I\'ve been to have been from people I\'ve heard off the net just off of MySpace.
 

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by AinuLainour Successful is being able to rely on music as one would on your average career.
So by that would you class the hundreds of thousands of Session musicians and Music teachers as Successful or Unsuccesful?
 

Modderrhu

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Originally posted by Evil Dave
By touring, ticket sales and merchandise is the artists bread and butter. Artists make very little from actual CD sales.
Hmmm, this implies that musos can\'t just make music, they actually have to be entertainers too. Somebody had better tell REM that squinting as you mumble into an under-amplified microphone is not en tertainment. *grumble*
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
So by that would you class the hundreds of thousands of Session musicians and Music teachers as Successful or Unsuccesful?
Success. Success and The Big Time are two different thing, me thinks. I\'ve heard some astoundingly brilliant musicians play, yet they\'re not \'discovered\' or signed up. Perhaps it\'s because they\'re musicians and not just entertainers that can chirrup and whistle if they\'ve eaten enough budgie seed.
 

farseerlum

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i have never understood how muscians nowadays expect mega bucks for their efforts.

it was never the case before the 20th century, musicians lived pretty low on the economic scale.

free music? it always was.
 

Evil Dave

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Originally posted by Modderrhu
Originally posted by Evil Dave
By touring, ticket sales and merchandise is the artists bread and butter. Artists make very little from actual CD sales.
Hmmm, this implies that musos can\'t just make music, they actually have to be entertainers too. Somebody had better tell REM that squinting as you mumble into an under-amplified microphone is not entertainment. *grumble*
Sure they can, and they always could, but without touring they never really made a huge amount of money.
I see this as a good thing for those bands that sound good live, and not so good for those that only sound good in the studio.
In other words, we may see some real talent come out like they had in the 60\'s and 70\'s before they had the intensive studio mixing.

As far as entertainers vs Musicians, hell it\'s always been that way. KISS didn\'t make all their money because they were great musicians, in fact they only had one Number one song \"Beth\", but they were amazing performers and always packed any arena.

(Although I am a KISS fan, I will be the first to admit that they are not great song writers nor musicians, with the possibility of Ace Frehley being notoriously overlooked as a fantastic guitar player.)
 

Modderrhu

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Originally posted by Evil Dave
Sure they can, and they always could, but without touring they never really made a huge amount of money.
I see this as a good thing for those bands that sound good live, and not so good for those that only sound good in the studio.
In other words, we may see some real talent come out like they had in the 60\'s and 70\'s before they had the intensive studio mixing.
Which from my perspective, could be a bad thing all round. I\'m far less likely to go watch a band live, than I am to go to an opera, or ballet. Saw a production of The Magic Flute last year that still has me enthralled. That could well change, however, if we do see that revival of real talent.
Originally posted by Torn blue sky
Funny thing is, yeah i\'ll DL tracks, but I really like having the album!
There are few albums that I\'d buy so that I could have all the music on them. Most have two or three good tunes and the rest is pretty much filler. I wonder what will happen to those filler tunes if they never got sold with the good ones.

There\'s one band that somehow gets it just right: Jethro Tull. Excellent music, excellent stage performances, and they have a couple of albums that I enjoy all of the music on.

Edit: Come to think of it, this really is a kick in the pants for DRM. And that is something that warms my stone-cold little heart. :)
 

Yetie

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well I never evey1 in my office is well pleased no more feeling like a bandito for not paying over infalted price\'s for CD\'s!!!
 
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