My first castings!

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Sturmhalo

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Great stuff, and they look really nice painted up!

Only thing, did you use any pre-made pieces in making them? I\'m thinking the tank tracks here. If they\'re already made by someone they might take umbridge at them being re-cast and then sold. However, if you made all the details yourself, woohoo!

:D
 

Klute

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Very ,very good.I especially like the simple but very effective tyre tread one.
Try a silicone spray mould release,its also used for cleaning machine beds and rollers etc.
Ive got a kilo of casting silicone I blagged off a rep at work for doing just this.I was going to do some crates and barrels and accessories.
Try a full range.And maybe some of the rounded bases,they look much better for display pieces.Cobbles,wooden flooring,flagstones,you could go on for ever.
These being \"futuristic\" you should do some \"medievel\" types.
BTW what are you useing to cast.Is it a basic 50/50 fastcast.It looks very similar to the stuff we use at work.
Also keep in mind what you use on the master as when you start making your millions GW will be very interested in the shape of them tank tracks etc.:D(EDIT looks like Sturm beat me to it)
 

finn17

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Sweet....

I posted this on the other thread, but it bears repetition...

These are Forgeworld bases....

FWBases


Now I know which ones I think look more professional. Just look at all that gating that needs to be cut away and the uneven sides...:|~
 

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Cheers Sturm and Klute.
I\'ve already thought about this and realised my mistake, so I\'ve tried to steer well clear of using anything GW since.... Mind you wouldn\'t want to looking at some of their Forgeworld bases!lol
Some of the other parts are cannibalised, but they are generic and mashed up. Fatboy Slim is of the opinion that you should wait for the lawyers to call - hey who am I to argue?!
Already got some fantasy stuff brewing, as well as some rocky, slatey ones. They\'re taking a while to mould up though! As for resin, it\'s 50/50 polyeurethane resin. Sets DAMN quick...
 

Greymane

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groovy

Any chance you can knock up some hybrid specific ones for me ? anytime next week would be great :D;)

They are very good and I\'ll PM you sat AM for prices etc.
 

Klute

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50/50 polyureathane.Thats the stuff.Make more moulds from the early casts and keep them for when the originals break down.Ive heard that silicon mould go after a while.
About copyright....Im a patternmaker by trade and in my work place we work along side a fibreglass laminating factory so we get to make the moulds/masters for them.Now one day the boss from the frp place brought in a door canopy and asked us to copy it and I say \"wait you cant do that youll get wrong\".So he says(and he knows the crack) its OK as long as you change a few parts.So lets say the tank tracks are GW? I think it would be OK if you just took a chamfer off here and there.Or maybe add a couple of rivets.
I think it would be unlikely though.
Also be carefull naming copyrighted games like Hybrid.Dont say \"bases for Hybrid\",,say\"bases that can be used for games like Hybrid\".
GW had an issue with painted non GW minis on ebay along these lines.I think peeps were writing warhammer or something.
This is probably just my uber paranoia surfacing.
Whats that in the sock drawer:eek:
 

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Cheers for the advice Klute, I appreciate it. I don\'t think you\'re being overly paranoid where GW are concerned...... I made an effort to manipulate all of the bits I used, but would rather limit the risk to be honest.

On an altogether different note, I see that seniorship beckons - GET POSTING!:D
 

finn17

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Depends on the type...

Originally posted by WurzagUdUraZahuba
So the molds are made out of silicone? I would think that would be awfully soft?
Almost all moulds for this sort of stuff are made out of silicone. Some of it is softish, other types are as hard and more durable as wood.
 

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The silicone i\'m using is a good compromise between hard/soft....
And here are the latest designs!

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:)
Ooh, poo photo...... @finn: I made an enquiry at the shop....
 

Klute

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@wurzag....

like finn said there are different types.The best for these I would say is the very soft rubber cos it gets sucked right into the detail but as Scott found out it sometimes grabs the master.If you use a \"frame\" around the mould it will cast in a block,which helps keep shape and being very rubber it will de mould around undercuts which a \"hard\" mould wouldn\'t.
 
Ok. A few more questions. Where do you get these materials? Also, is the master piece special in any way or is it just a normal piece? Is any detail lost in the casting process?
 
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provoke_me

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yeah!

oooo i wanna know too! also to add to the questioning. what is the maximum size limit to cast?
does shape matter in the max. size thingy????
 

finn17

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Yabbadabbadoo!

Right. I have just received a \'review\' set of bases from Scott and I have to say they are fantastic!

I have bought cast resin bases before from both Forgeworld and Epicast:

Forgeworld are IMO a waste of money. The bases themselves are good, but there is so much gating and flash to cut away that they are virtually unusable.

Epicast bases are good. I have had no problems with these and would certainly buy them again. The bottoms of the base do vary however. Some are finished off perfectly and others need flattening down with sandpaper.

Scott\'s bases are easily as good as Epicast and light years ahead of Forgeworld. The industrial bases are my personal fave. They are clear and detailed and have enough interest on them without looking like a \'dog\'s dinner\'. Perfect IMO. The fantasy bases are also well done and have a nice bit of height to them. Minis based on these will stand out very nicely from the throng. The bottoms on these bases were like Epicast, most were perfectly flat, but a couple would benefit from a few seconds with a bit of sandpaper. Nothing drastic at all...unlike the Forgeworld tat that needs half an hour with a dremel:flame:.

Overall, I was very impressed, so impressed that I might actually settle up with him:D

Scott: If you are going to be knocking lots of these out, why don\'t you send some samples to Harbinger. That should bring you some trade:D
 
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Sturmhalo

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I prefer the sci-fi ones to the rocky ones from the pics we\'ve been shown. Could be onto a nice little earner there fella!
 

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Aha! Cheers Steve! I\'m getting the hang of it now, and have a much better idea of what looks good, and moulds up well. Wait \'til you see the latest batch - square industrial for Hybrid..... I\'m also in the process of posting painted examples on my site.....:D
 

Ritual

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Originally posted by Spacemunkie
square industrial for Hybrid.....
Damn, I was already having trouble deciding what I wanted for my first order.???

Thanks for your comment on my mini, by the way. I\'m glad you liked it.:)

/Anders
 
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