National Styles
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Infidel Castro
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Originally posted by Ritual
Rev, is there a Welsh style? You\'re not \'English\', are you?
The Welsh style is pretty much half-arsed with little or no motivation. It works a treat
If you were to look in my gallery you\'ll find the Crom dude we all painted for CMON:
As I painted this guy for myself I quickly ran out of patience when the front looked done. Therefore I left the back of it barely painted. I can\'t show you an image, but the whole of the back is almost untouched, with metal and primer fighting for ascendancy! Sturmhalo was alarmed that I had just thrown the piece into a box with no care of consideration for it. i then told him why I don\'t care much for it and showed him the back. He was shocked a little I think lol It\'s all smoke and mirrors, the Welsh style lol
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i\'m with trevor re; \'Australian style\'...
all the regular GD winners here tend to be very different to each other. This said, I think the general tendency is a little darker, and most people try to emulate the eavy metal style ( which over the last few years, isn\'t anything worth bragging about...).
all the regular GD winners here tend to be very different to each other. This said, I think the general tendency is a little darker, and most people try to emulate the eavy metal style ( which over the last few years, isn\'t anything worth bragging about...).
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styles ??? - never cared about them , but after a deep thought here are my 2 cents:
Polish style - dark, naturalistic, sometimes even dirty looking. Analogous colors.
that seemed right a coupleof years ago (at least i got that impression when i was a painting judge in some competitions). recently that has started to change dramatically and i found out that most of my fellow painters started to experiment a lot and it really influenced their painting. now \"Polish style\" seems to be almost non existent - it`s too varied.
a note on English style - can`t tell whether it`s dark or not, mostly because of contrasting colors (old eavy metal way), but definitely with naturalistic ambition.
Polish style - dark, naturalistic, sometimes even dirty looking. Analogous colors.
that seemed right a coupleof years ago (at least i got that impression when i was a painting judge in some competitions). recently that has started to change dramatically and i found out that most of my fellow painters started to experiment a lot and it really influenced their painting. now \"Polish style\" seems to be almost non existent - it`s too varied.
a note on English style - can`t tell whether it`s dark or not, mostly because of contrasting colors (old eavy metal way), but definitely with naturalistic ambition
.Funny, I\'d never thought of anything having a national/territorial style before. I always think of different painting styles as being associated with a particular manufacturer. In other words, it seems to me that people paint minis differently depending on who made the mini.
For example, I always think of s-dean\'s style as Foundry style. And I look at a lot of minis and think \"that\'s painted GW style\".
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For example, I always think of s-dean\'s style as Foundry style. And I look at a lot of minis and think \"that\'s painted GW style\".
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Originally by EricJ
But I\'m also intersted in those painters who seem to diverge from their \"National style\" such as Elouchard. Also how does anyone try to categorise the style of someone like Fluffy? (Alison McVey)
Someone mentioned Steve Dean being categorised as the \"Style of Foundry\" which is strange and yet accurate, as I when think of Foundry minatures I automatically think of his work. I\'m pretty sure that Steve originated as a historical gamer and his painting style developed from there.
I\'m quite surprised to find myself being categorised alongside Mike McVey when there are other painters you haven\'t mentioned Spacemunkie, Avicenna, Klute, Steve Buddle and Tooshy (who doesn\'t post anywhere near enough).
But I\'m also intersted in those painters who seem to diverge from their \"National style\" such as Elouchard. Also how does anyone try to categorise the style of someone like Fluffy? (Alison McVey)
Someone mentioned Steve Dean being categorised as the \"Style of Foundry\" which is strange and yet accurate, as I when think of Foundry minatures I automatically think of his work. I\'m pretty sure that Steve originated as a historical gamer and his painting style developed from there.
Infidel Castro
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Don\'t want to sound like a silly petulant sausage, but Mike McVey is a master painter and DR is good, which is a massive difference. I would just be sensible and put Mike McVey as the progenitor of the style and the master of what a lot of us try and achieve. And yes, it does come from Eavy Metal and White Dwarf our style of painting over here (or at least in many respects), but I wouldn\'t call it dark...it\'s more contrasted if anything. Sorry Mike for making an example of what Eric said, it\'s just levels of achievement and where we all fit in. I don\'t get legalistic too often, but sometimes we need to put the buggers who deserve it at the very top, which is why I wanted to hold up the old skinny boy McVey.
But of course, Mike kind of addressed that in his first paragraph above...
I\'d put old Sturmy in there with the English style too, but don\'t tell him. he gets grumpy if provoked.
And the smoking with the mirrors is dangerous. :flame:
But of course, Mike kind of addressed that in his first paragraph above...
I\'d put old Sturmy in there with the English style too, but don\'t tell him. he gets grumpy if provoked.
And the smoking with the mirrors is dangerous. :flame:
It is a fun acedemic exercise to discuss the origins and regions of style, but don\'t you think it can be a bit dangerous to put labels on everything? I don\'t mean \'dangerous\' as in juggling sharp knifes or sticking dynamite in your rectum, but in the sense that it may pidgeon hole artists.
The \'national\' sense of style is really being confused with the top artists\' style from that region. I guess that is not such an uncommon thing. It is the same with music. American music is very stylistically different from Europeon music, or British music, and each of those are basically defined by the popular musicians.
The \'national\' sense of style is really being confused with the top artists\' style from that region. I guess that is not such an uncommon thing. It is the same with music. American music is very stylistically different from Europeon music, or British music, and each of those are basically defined by the popular musicians.
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I have to but in agree with you here. I was shocked when I read that Mike\'s (McVey) work was being classed as dark and naturalistic. It\'s actually quite the opposite. I\'d say clean, bright and contrasty and I think most painters who\'ve been through the \'eavy metal painting team have a very similar style and treatment as Mike.
I just told Mike about this thread and he just went on a rant about his not being naturalistic because minis are not real little people and he never tried to make them look real. He said he tried to make them look as bright and precious as possible.
I\'m making him sound like a magpie....or at worst a complete lunatic.....sorry mike.
I on the other hand, try to paint darker and naturalistic.
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Good! I\'m glad to hear that someone of Mike\'s stature thinks miniatures should be larger than life and that \'natural\' and \'reality\' are oxymorons when used to describe minis!!
Without wanting to sound like a snivelling sycophant (I\'m not honestly), Mike was the single biggest influence on my mini painting as a kid. It was the perfect technique and the bright glow he gave (gives) minis - he really gave them vigour!
Without wanting to sound like a snivelling sycophant (I\'m not honestly), Mike was the single biggest influence on my mini painting as a kid. It was the perfect technique and the bright glow he gave (gives) minis - he really gave them vigour!
so... I\'m not the only one who\'s tried that?
So, after just reading this thing through from the beginning, I can ascertain that if a person is the only one posting on CMON from their country, then that nation\'s style would be determined by their work? That\'s some mighty big shoes to fill, Glad I\'m not from Zaire or El Salvador, I\'d be shot for embarrassing the country... lol
I\'m also surprised to see there is a \"Swedish\" style? I thought that all Swedes were buxom airheaded blondes that were stewerdesses, not painters. Another myth shot to hell...
On the serious side, I would have to completely agree with Fluffy and Space (and therefore with Mike McVey) about \"larger then life\". Many of the great masters painted their people with exaggerated limbs and/or colors. It\'s an artistic \"trick\" to draw your eye to certain parts of the work. I couldn\'t possibly give you any examples because I didn\'t pay much attention during the history part of my art courses, but I\'m sure SM can.
Since I\'m only just learning how to paint my minis in an artistic style, I\'ve come to a conclusion about \"showing off\" your miniatures. Exaggerated details show up better in photos. It\'s that simple. I HATE NMM in person, but I love the way it looks in pics. I used to paint with subtle highlights and shadows, but they don\'t show up in the photos. Now I over-highlight, and my pics look much better. I still like the natural style of our UK painters better, but if you want ratings you got to go SNMM and exaggerated details.
Just my two cents worth.
PS - I\'m making my first attempt at NMM on my ME3 mini, but I won\'t show a WIP, I want everyone\'s first reaction to be of the complete model, because I need mucho feedback on this one.
Infidel Castro
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I\'m glad Mike McVey got his words on here somehow lol
Minis have always been about contrast overall, as otherwise we end up in Lobinske-land, and we all know what happened there. And nice call SM, bigging up Mike M...you put it slightly better than I managed. The guy is still the guru to my mind
Fluffy, do you and Mike have painting burn-outs to see who is the best? Your gallery is superb...just wondered if it fostered a competitive edge lol
Minis have always been about contrast overall, as otherwise we end up in Lobinske-land, and we all know what happened there. And nice call SM, bigging up Mike M...you put it slightly better than I managed. The guy is still the guru to my mind
Fluffy, do you and Mike have painting burn-outs to see who is the best? Your gallery is superb...just wondered if it fostered a competitive edge lol
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Yeah, come on Mike! Get a gallery put up on CMON!
*Shouts even louder, but nobody appears to be listening*
MIKE!!??
*Shouts even louder, but nobody appears to be listening*
MIKE!!??
