Non-Americans can be sooo gullible
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vincegamer
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Yeah, I like to do that every now and then.Originally posted by finn17I have to admit Vince..you made my \'knee jerk\'.:flip:
At least it was just your knee
vincegamer
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So you are saying a sperm is not alive?
I saw an interesting program on stem cell research. They stated basically that a single-cell embryo is a potential human being. It is also a potential cure to alzheimers, a potential cure for Lupus, a potential cure for Cystic Fibrosis, and a potential piece of dead tissue (somewhere around 90% of pregnancies spontaneously abort).
oops sorry posted early in the morning and used the french word (wrong spelling though
). Anyway the correct word is impultions ( I think). @asetordrederire: Les termites et fourmis ne font que repondre a leurs pultion et instinc naturel quant elles vivent en comunauté. L\'homme par contre est incapable de survivr de maniere naturel. Il est pas fait pour survivre. Ce qui l\'oblige deux chose, abandoner les lois de la nature, et a vivre dans un etat dit de societée ou l\'on est obligé de restreindre nos instincts. L\'etat de societée quant a lui fait ressortir nos pulsions et du fait que l\'on n\'est plus soumis au lois de la nature on deviens obliger de crée un troisieme état, l\'etat politique. Dans l\'etat politique l\'homme crée lui meme ses propre lois pour remplacer celle que il a abandoner en quitant l\'etat naturel. En se sense l\'etat n\'est pas un animal naturel. du point de vue biologique par contre il est bien sur naturel
Astorderire
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It depends on what you mean by \"alive\"
It doesn\'t synthetise any proteine or ARN, in fact there is no nucleus activity... it\'s just a kind of homing support carring ADN... It\'s as alive as a severed finger ( and I should stop playing with that nasty cutting pliers)... even less in fact. In the case of mamalian you can\'t even make a clone with only the sperm of one animal...
This would make a nice easy question for last chance biology exam.
@frenchkid: lol Et que font les abeilles et compagnie? La politique est la reponse ethologique naturel (sa pulsion) de l\'Homme face à son environement et le raisonnement qui y conduit n\'a pas un caractere \"hors nature\" mais est une simple reponse evolutive a une selection darwinienne (comme les poumons ou la couleur des criquets). Un peu comme des poissons faisant parti integrante d\'un banc, nous ne percevons pas l\'existance du banc, c\'est à dire que si nos actions individuelles nous paraissent guidées par des facteurs \"non naturels\", collectivement nous ne faisons que constuire notre méchament naturelle ruche sans nous en apercevoir.
C\'est cette année la philo?
philologus
Subgenius
@ French Kid.
I understand the effects of fatigue. I think you meant impulses? Any way that fits and clears it up. Thanks.
I understand the effects of fatigue. I think you meant impulses? Any way that fits and clears it up. Thanks.
Astorderire
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lol
I feel as if we are slowly, well, sliding towards the naked polo stuff.
Suddenly a very disgusting picture of Frankenstein yelling \"It\'s alive! It\'s alive!\" is crossing my mind.
I feel as if we are slowly, well, sliding towards the naked polo stuff.
Suddenly a very disgusting picture of Frankenstein yelling \"It\'s alive! It\'s alive!\" is crossing my mind.
Avelorn
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some thoughts..
First of all, why should we NOT kill each other?
Because we are Gods property and only he can will our death?
Because God says so?
Because we don\'t want people to do it to us?
Because we have a natural compassion with other human beings that makes as identify each other as selves that have unbreakable rights?
because the law says so and we are obliged to follow the law as we have accepted the authority of the state?
Because we will get punished?
Just a few answers off the top of my head(none without problems of course)
Why should we then prohibit or legislate abortion? It depends on the first question and the definition when we are humans and get those rights.
Is what is potentially a human being entitled to the same right as a human? Then where do we draw the line? Is every sperm a potential child? (every sperm is sacred...) Is it not unfair to the other sperms that only one can concieve a baby if we give them the same rights as humans? (hey we did give them a chance, didn\'t we!) Should you not perform an abortion because the baby would naturally evolve inside the mother if we did nothing? The line where a foetus can survive with medical help pushed backwards all the time. Will rich people have a different obligation because they can pay for the medical help? Is this then a similar problem as with people that has been in a coma for very long and will probably not wake up? Is the foetus suddenly in charge of the body keeping it, limiting the mothers freedom of choice? What if you say that what is good is due to how much it improves the general happiness?
okay.. some POV\'s on a difficult topic. My own opinion is that we choose by ourselves, if your religious view or other prevents you from making an abortion, you are free to do so. But you also have to respect the fact that other people may reason in another way. They may have signed the treaty that we shouldn\'t kill each other on different grounds and they may have a different opinion when a foetus becomes a human. None of the views are unproblematic. But I feel that the best way is to make people decide for themselves and not force opinions on each other in this issue.
First of all, why should we NOT kill each other?
Because we are Gods property and only he can will our death?
Because God says so?
Because we don\'t want people to do it to us?
Because we have a natural compassion with other human beings that makes as identify each other as selves that have unbreakable rights?
because the law says so and we are obliged to follow the law as we have accepted the authority of the state?
Because we will get punished?
Just a few answers off the top of my head(none without problems of course)
Why should we then prohibit or legislate abortion? It depends on the first question and the definition when we are humans and get those rights.
Is what is potentially a human being entitled to the same right as a human? Then where do we draw the line? Is every sperm a potential child? (every sperm is sacred...
) Is it not unfair to the other sperms that only one can concieve a baby if we give them the same rights as humans? (hey we did give them a chance, didn\'t we!) Should you not perform an abortion because the baby would naturally evolve inside the mother if we did nothing? The line where a foetus can survive with medical help pushed backwards all the time. Will rich people have a different obligation because they can pay for the medical help? Is this then a similar problem as with people that has been in a coma for very long and will probably not wake up? Is the foetus suddenly in charge of the body keeping it, limiting the mothers freedom of choice? What if you say that what is good is due to how much it improves the general happiness? okay.. some POV\'s on a difficult topic. My own opinion is that we choose by ourselves, if your religious view or other prevents you from making an abortion, you are free to do so. But you also have to respect the fact that other people may reason in another way. They may have signed the treaty that we shouldn\'t kill each other on different grounds and they may have a different opinion when a foetus becomes a human. None of the views are unproblematic. But I feel that the best way is to make people decide for themselves and not force opinions on each other in this issue.
Originally posted by Astorderire
C\'est cette année la philo?
lol absolument. Et si je dit que l\'homme est un animal naturel au bac je vais me faire lyncher
tout les philosophes que on etudient disent que l\'homme est pas naturel. Bon apres y en exist p-e qui disent le contraire. Mais j\'ai pas encor essayer de faire de la philo en dehors des cours Astorderire
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Le conformisme paie toujours :duh:
vincegamer
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Some people will say:
\"life starts at conception.\"
I prefer to reply:
\"but when do Rights start?\"
\"life starts at conception.\"
I prefer to reply:
\"but when do Rights start?\"
vincegamer
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when you started reading this threadOriginally posted by finn17
You are a lawyer...
When do the fees start?
judging by my post count I would say I\'ve clocked about a bazillion billable hours. Pay up.
