Shawn R. L.
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Sharia law takes a foothold...............this is something to truly be scared of.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece
Please tell me this isn\'t real!! What are they thinking allowing this?
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Roger Bunting
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I knew there was some talk about it, but I didn\'t know it had actually happened...
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Chief, that post is wrong on so many levels....
Edit: The fact that you can\'t spell your name right says it all though I guess.
People wonder why I left the UK....
Edit: The fact that you can\'t spell your name right says it all though I guess.
People wonder why I left the UK....
Scolar
I had to remove your posting as it breached the Terms and Conditions of this site.
I\'m extremely dismayed, disatisfied and disgusted that this has taken place in such an underhand manner.
If Turkey, a Muslim Country, refuses to allow Shar\'ia courts why do WE now have two seperate court systems?
I had to remove your posting as it breached the Terms and Conditions of this site.
I\'m extremely dismayed, disatisfied and disgusted that this has taken place in such an underhand manner.
If Turkey, a Muslim Country, refuses to allow Shar\'ia courts why do WE now have two seperate court systems?
tidoco2222
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I\'m speechless
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@ Mike: I can see why you pulled the comment, but I think it\'s a shame in some ways. I would have liked to have seen what everyone had to say on the matter.
Scott:
In some repects I agree with your point of view regarding the comment.
However it was a clear breach of the T&C\'s and I couldn\'t allow it to remain.
In some repects I agree with your point of view regarding the comment.
However it was a clear breach of the T&C\'s and I couldn\'t allow it to remain.
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Totally understand. Would just have liked to have seen chappie learn a lesson or two, that\'s all.
The UK hasn\'t got a chance if that\'s the sort of attitude that\'s taken. Sad thing is, I can hear the sounds of the unwashed masses clamouring to put their Xs in the wrong boxes from here....
The UK hasn\'t got a chance if that\'s the sort of attitude that\'s taken. Sad thing is, I can hear the sounds of the unwashed masses clamouring to put their Xs in the wrong boxes from here....
mattsterbenz
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I can only hope the politicians who put this into place get their heads screwed back on and switch it back to one court system. Imagine all the confusion that\'s going to come of this. Redarmy said it right.
One country = one court system.
-Matt
One country = one court system.
-Matt
medved1980
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please remember folks that in english law you have the right to contest the \'juristiction\' of a court. this means that sharia law is not in effect.
sharia law will be used as a common law system just like various mediation processes. and wherever there is a conflict or disagreement in the processes the persons concerned can apply to the courts to review the decision under \'english law\'
the UK courts have ultimate sway over whether the decisions of the sharia courts can be enforced or not.
i dont think there should be a big panic. it\'s a bit like devolved council powers, you still have the option to contest the decision to a higher level (and thus get it in the english courts)
sharia law will be used as a common law system just like various mediation processes. and wherever there is a conflict or disagreement in the processes the persons concerned can apply to the courts to review the decision under \'english law\'
the UK courts have ultimate sway over whether the decisions of the sharia courts can be enforced or not.
i dont think there should be a big panic. it\'s a bit like devolved council powers, you still have the option to contest the decision to a higher level (and thus get it in the english courts)
generulpoleaxe
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it\'s already done in the jewish comunities and that hasn\'t brought about the down fall of uk society.
the media is blowing it out of proportion as they still have to obey uk law.
they just have a religious leader deal with marital problems including divorce unless it gets bad enough that they decide the police are needed.
people involved can still go to the police if they wish, and the police can interveen any time they wish.
it has helped keep the peece many times in jewish comunities, so why not muslim ones?
the media is blowing it out of proportion as they still have to obey uk law.
they just have a religious leader deal with marital problems including divorce unless it gets bad enough that they decide the police are needed.
people involved can still go to the police if they wish, and the police can interveen any time they wish.
it has helped keep the peece many times in jewish comunities, so why not muslim ones?
darklord
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the danger is if this parallels the british law that stands and also the other thing that springs to mind is wether decisions based on sharia contravene standard law. (ie sexual discrimination,etc)
of course there is a distinct danger this could make the muslim community more distant from the mainstream. If i moved to sweden or somewhere i would expect to abide by those rules, try and learn that language and integrate into the countries community, i certainly dont expect any special treatment
of course there is a distinct danger this could make the muslim community more distant from the mainstream. If i moved to sweden or somewhere i would expect to abide by those rules, try and learn that language and integrate into the countries community, i certainly dont expect any special treatment
Infidel Castro
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Quite right.
I\'m disappointed that some responses here have been so negative and knee-jerk. If it\'s alright for the Jews to have had that sort of alternative for a century then it\'s not a problem to see it happen for the Muslims. In black and white terms it\'s either all or nothing - rescind any arrangement the Jews have whilst telling the Muslims to bugger off at the same time, or give them the same option through their own systems. These things happen and cultures develop and evolve. If you can\'t deal with that then that\'s your own problem.
Mr.S.Marbo
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I think it\'s all a bit out of proportion. It appears to me that both parties have to agree to use this method of arbitration in the first place and it\'s only civil cases. That appears to me to meant that if one person involved doesn\'t want to use this method of arbitration then it\'s not enforceable.
If you don\'t want to do it then you don\'t have to, and British law is what governs the UK. If you don\'t want to try and settle your civil dispute through this way then you don\'t have to. \"British law is absolute..\" as the quote says.
These aren\'t court rulings it\'s arbitration. If one of these \"tribunals\" came out with something that falls foul of a UK law then the UK courts and European Court of Justice wouldn\'t uphold it.
I don\'t think it\'s a big deal. I am more concerned with the fact the UK is happy to extradite it\'s own citizens to other countries for offences committed while the suspect was in the UK without the other country having to prove anything to the UK courts (apart from the fact they\'d like to have this person because they think he\'s been naughty).
If you don\'t want to do it then you don\'t have to, and British law is what governs the UK. If you don\'t want to try and settle your civil dispute through this way then you don\'t have to. \"British law is absolute..\" as the quote says.
These aren\'t court rulings it\'s arbitration. If one of these \"tribunals\" came out with something that falls foul of a UK law then the UK courts and European Court of Justice wouldn\'t uphold it.
I don\'t think it\'s a big deal. I am more concerned with the fact the UK is happy to extradite it\'s own citizens to other countries for offences committed while the suspect was in the UK without the other country having to prove anything to the UK courts (apart from the fact they\'d like to have this person because they think he\'s been naughty).
