should i start a underrated mini column?

hakoMike

Active member
Originally posted by reverend
Aye, in all fairness, the whole issue depends on the approach of the person in the first place. Some chap or lady posting a pic in Discuss Submissions with the tag THIS IS GOD (sorry, misspelling again!) is pretty clean in my book. It\'s an opinion, job done, agree or disagree, whatever. The other stuff? It gives us a chance to share a few gems we find on our journeys and, if done proper-like, can be quite insightful. Mishandling on the other (mis-) hand can be quite INCITEFUL. See what a clever lad I am with my grammar? lol
Enzyteful?
 

philologus

Subgenius
Originally posted by supervike
Originally posted by charley1968
@ spacemunkie: you sound plain arrogant.

Now don\'t judge Mr. Munkie too harshly...He has been an opponent of this sort of thing for a long time and makes a very good case, one that I happen to not agree with. He certainly doesn\'t need me defending him, but I thought I\'d try to curtail this before it gets out of hand.

But, that said, we should aim to have a civilized discussion of the matter without name calling or poking fun at someones grammar skills.

If you are tired of reading about this stuff on the forum, simply don\'t read it. If there is interest, it will generate discussion, if not it will die on the vine much like a thread about the merits of speed ironing.

This simply amazes me Vike! You just turn on the maturity and then 3 posts later back to your normal self. Very mod-like. :D
 

charley1968

New member
One man\'s arse is another man\'s mouth,ey?:bouncy:
@spacemunkie:discussing \'average\' is not the same as cheering it. Only pushing the
\'5\' doesn\'t improve anyone\'s painting, does it?
 

Legacy Account

Active member
Realistically, neither does a bunch of waffle about blending or watering your paints down!

It\'s all down to practice.

And anyway, who\'s to say that a given painter WANTS to improve from the level they\'re at or have submitted? They may be perfectly happy with the standard they\'re producing. It\'s all a bit presumptious.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Originally posted by philologus

This simply amazes me Vike! You just turn on the maturity and then 3 posts later back to your normal self. Very mod-like. :D

I am not sure what you are referring to. I am in a very serious mood in almost every post I make.

whoops, I think I just pooped a little...lol
 

AinuLainour

New member
Originally posted by reverend
Originally posted by AinuLainour
Lots of backhanded insults and comments floating around here, eh?
Blimey, hark at Mr Self Important! To then go and rip apart the fella\'s views and grammar (albeit with an half-arsed apology) shows you up in a bad light. In the spirit of your surmisal, please answer me why it is that a fella (thee) who writes up a weekly review on superbly painted and (importantly) photographed minis can\'t actually get a decent bloody picture up on CMoN. Surely you\'ve learnt something by now! :cussing:

If you can\'t see what I may find a bit troubling in this thread, then you must be blind. Face it Reverend, you, Spacemunkie and I aren\'t afraid to speak what\'s on our mind (even if it may be harsh...). But when I go back and read over what I\'ve written, sometimes I realize how awful it sounds, despite my best attempts to tell the person what is really needed. Technically, this defeats my point :p

And let\'s not turn this into an attack on my gallery. I\'m busy enough with school work, work, writing, music, the hobby etc. (on a related note, DrEvilMonki sent me some excellent instructions on how to take decent photos :beer: )

As for the articles, go check out my first one, and then my most recent. Whether you choose to do this or not, you will notice that:

1. I know a lot more about what makes a miniature a good miniature than I did at the start (ie. at first it was what \'popped\' or what \'looks absolutely AMAZING\" but now it\'s far more in depth; as in accurate directional lighting/shadows in the painting, colour contrasts etc.).

2. My writing has improved.

I\'d also like you to know why I\'m a little bit sensitive when comments ridiculing the column come up.. On average I spend over an hour going through that week\'s submissions, and an hour to four hours writing the article.
 

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Active member
We\'re not ridiculing, and it certainly isn\'t a personal attack Ainu. I\'m just being a sarcastic, arguementative arse most of the time! (It\'s my raison d\'etre):D

It\'s usually best just to ignore me (that\'s what my lass does. That or bash me....):beer:
 

Infidel Castro

New member
Originally posted by AinuLainour


I\'d also like you to know why I\'m a little bit sensitive when comments ridiculing the column come up.. On average I spend over an hour going through that week\'s submissions, and an hour to four hours writing the article.

Good on you Ainu, self-satisfaction is a wonderful tool :D

I\'ve always preferred a style of writing that echoes a person speech by the way. None of this fancy nonsense, unless the piss is being well and truly taken ;)

Right, I\'m off...
 

AinuLainour

New member
Originally posted by reverend

I\'ve always preferred a style of writing that echoes a person speech by the way. None of this fancy nonsense, unless the piss is being well and truly taken ;)

Then I wouldn\'t like to meet you in person. ;) :p

I don\'t know though, I prefer writing as well as one can, but I\'ve always liked writing stories for the fun of it so that\'s probably the reason.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by jondalar
Originally posted by Spacemunkie

What\'s wrong with posting comments on the minis themselves..................................Absolutley right, Scott
So to precise, it\'s not the standards of the minis that I have a problem with. It\'s art critics! :D

As mentioned elsewhere, the posting of comments doesnt happen very often anymore due to high volume of pics and unless you comment on other peoples\' work, comments are a rare thing.
I hate to point this out but I moderate about 60-80 (on average ) comments a day. Vikey and Finn18 probably do about the same.
What I think you actually mean is that you percieve that the amount of constructive comments isn\'t as high as you or I would like to see.

However what I do see is a great deal of laudits on the latest and greatest piece of work from some of the high standard painters. (Guilty of that myself, as I suspect are so many of us.)

What has become apparent to me is that there are a number of recently appeared \"protective\" commentators who have posted comments, rather highly scored, on figures praising the figure above the standard it is, \"In My Subjective View\" often accuratley, marked at.

There where and still are a number of reasons why I started the HEY YOU LOT thread in the Discuss Submissions forum.

1: There are a lot of deserved high scoring miniatures form well known names and there is equally some good stuff being posted which is being overshadowed by the top end painters.

2: Personally I now only vote when I can also comment on a picture where I think I canmake a suggestion which, without patronising the painter, may help. So by bringing the posted picture to your collective attention I\'m hoping that the painter will receive the recognition of their work and also that there may be some other constructive crticism provided.

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That was a right mouthful.
 

philologus

Subgenius
Originally posted by supervike
Originally posted by philologus

This simply amazes me Vike! You just turn on the maturity and then 3 posts later back to your normal self. Very mod-like. :D

I am not sure what you are referring to. I am in a very serious mood in almost every post I make.

whoops, I think I just pooped a little...lol

Classic. :)
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Originally posted by AinuLainour
Originally posted by matty1001
Ahhh, i love it when Ainu gets all posh and well spoken when he\'s trying to prove a point! :p

Dear sir, I have not a clue of what you are talking about.

I think you should have capitalized the \'S\' in sir, since you were using it as a proper noun.
 

Swordwind

New member
Originally posted by reverend
I\'ve always preferred a style of writing that echoes a person speech by the way. None of this fancy nonsense, unless the piss is being well and truly taken ;)

I say old bean, pip pip and tallyho! Whatwhat!

Originally posted by reverend[/i
Right, I\'m off...


I know I can smell you from here :D

[size=-2]I\'ll get me coat[/size]
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Originally posted by AinuLainour
My good fellow, Supervike! I do believe that you are correct!

Classic reply Ainu!! lollol

you get a point!

(but you\'ll notice I never actually capitalize supervike)lol
 
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