The Set yourself a painting goal Thread.
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Goals
Mine are:
1. Finish a model (I am having painting ADD right now, can\'t seem to paint on one thing before i see some other conversion i have done or something that i want to start painting)
2. Get a 40k army done (I sold my other one.... (1500 points of infantry only space marines gone in 7 days.))
3. Paint my Mid-nor dwarves and Cyngar warmachine models.
4. Get something on this site that breaks an 8 (yeah i have a whole three pics, 2 WIPs and a 3 hour 9pm to 12am paint job for a weak painting competition the next day)
Mine are:
1. Finish a model (I am having painting ADD right now, can\'t seem to paint on one thing before i see some other conversion i have done or something that i want to start painting)
2. Get a 40k army done (I sold my other one.... (1500 points of infantry only space marines gone in 7 days.))
3. Paint my Mid-nor dwarves and Cyngar warmachine models.
4. Get something on this site that breaks an 8 (yeah i have a whole three pics, 2 WIPs and a 3 hour 9pm to 12am paint job for a weak painting competition the next day)
Wow, response!
1) Tammy that C\'tan is amazing
2) Dragonsreach, top that?!
3) To everyone who wants a demon refer to the \"How to win a Golden Demon\" thread, which is actually for all its ramblings quite useful.
4) New Goal for me, get my camera back off my brother and start getting a gallery together on here.
5) Set up website!
1) Tammy that C\'tan is amazing
2) Dragonsreach, top that?!
3) To everyone who wants a demon refer to the \"How to win a Golden Demon\" thread, which is actually for all its ramblings quite useful.
4) New Goal for me, get my camera back off my brother and start getting a gallery together on here.
5) Set up website!
Cerridwyn1st
New member
Thanks, Mike!
You could always take holiday to Jax in April `05 and help me drive up. ACK! BRIT ON AMERICAN ROADWAYS! LOOKOUT!
I was thinking of adding the goal of having a three-digit ranking, but I see I\'ve already got it. 971/1800 this morning.
\"Good enough\" for basic commission work means being better than the person who hired you. Really, hang out at your local games shop with some nice pieces and someone will ask you to paint for them. You can start by painting a few pieces for your friends who are really aweful.
I checked out your gallery. You have very nicely painted, clean minis. You are certainly good enough now to do some commission work.
I used to kill myself working on commission pieces for tabletop wargaming or FRPGs. It would annoy the person I was painting for because what he wanted was something that looked reasonably good, quickly, at a good price.
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Mel: I\'ll try to help you with items 1, 3, and 5. The others are out of my reach I\'m afraid.
You could always take holiday to Jax in April `05 and help me drive up. ACK! BRIT ON AMERICAN ROADWAYS! LOOKOUT!
I was thinking of adding the goal of having a three-digit ranking, but I see I\'ve already got it. 971/1800 this morning.
\"Good enough\" for basic commission work means being better than the person who hired you. Really, hang out at your local games shop with some nice pieces and someone will ask you to paint for them. You can start by painting a few pieces for your friends who are really aweful.
I checked out your gallery. You have very nicely painted, clean minis. You are certainly good enough now to do some commission work.
I used to kill myself working on commission pieces for tabletop wargaming or FRPGs. It would annoy the person I was painting for because what he wanted was something that looked reasonably good, quickly, at a good price.
Herb the bitter
New member
Exorcise some painting demons by bringing home a Golden demon from Chicago.
Originally posted by AlexDaKid
Wow, response!
1) Tammy that C\'tan is amazing Yes it is.....How much did you pay Cyril?
2) Dragonsreach, top that?! Yeah like how, pray tell? To tell the truth I don\'t want to top work like that C\'Tan of hers, despite the sarcastic comments from Tammy.
3) To everyone who wants a demon refer to the \"How to win a Golden Demon\" thread, which is actually for all its ramblings quite useful.
4) New Goal for me, get my camera back off my brother and start getting a gallery together on here.
5) Set up website! Yep gotta do that.
Thanks for the comments and advice.. I guess my problem is I have a lack of self worth, and don\'t really find my minis to be all that good... but I suppose that doesn\'t matter if other people think they are good and are willing to pay for them, eh?
What\'s the most common/best way of charging for minis? by the hour, or a set price per figure?
DragonPaint
Member
Thank you (and thanks also to Tammy and all other helpful friends here).
I remember when I was in the top 50
(ok, it was some time ago, if I remember well my top rank was 37/560)I just need more pratice after a loong inactivity and to analyze more pictures of wonderful entries like Tammy\'s C\'Tan and your Revenge of Christmas Pudding (apart of the silliness of the miiatures the shading is greath!)
Paolo (that start invading England with a trip in London next week
)tabithatan
New member
my goals for the year:
1. get 8s on a regular basis for my minis
2. make metallic painting nicer than NMM painting..
3. learn how to paint in a darker, more realistic style.
Some ppl like the style I have now.. but it has been compared to disney and \"my little pony\" ...... which was not my intention when i first started painting.
1. get 8s on a regular basis for my minis
2. make metallic painting nicer than NMM painting..
3. learn how to paint in a darker, more realistic style.
Some ppl like the style I have now.. but it has been compared to disney and \"my little pony\" ...... which was not my intention when i first started painting.
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t_haye2
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Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Originally posted by AlexDaKid
Wow, response!
1) Tammy that C\'tan is amazing Yes it is.....How much did you pay Cyril?
2) Dragonsreach, top that?! Yeah like how, pray tell? To tell the truth I don\'t want to top work like that C\'Tan of hers, despite the sarcastic comments from Tammy.
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lollollollol Oh man, i do ONE, ONE nmm\'american/french style\' model, and all of a sudden it\'s the best i ever did...stuff like this takes a fraction of the time to do compared to using metallics, or trying to achieve a natural result. I\'m glad everybody likes it, but....where does that leave my normal style? should I convert to american\'french styles? or should I stick with my own thing.....New goal: figure this one out....
Oh, btw Mike, I call my dad a daft old b*gg*r as well you know
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t_haye2
Guest
hhhmmmm.....interesting... i won\'t for the Uk demons, well, not on \'most\' of my entries, since i know that the judges prefer the natural styley. But I don\'t want to cop out you know? Like I said, nmm is actually easier and I find it less satisfying than real metals/natural style, but now I\'m freelance, I have to conform to the \'market\' if you will...this is difficult...
If I was as talented as you Tammy I wouldn\'t limit myself to one style!
Hang on I\'m not as talented as you and I still don\'t limit myself to one style! Many people love the \"beyond real\" style, and many models suit it (usually sci-fi models) some models don\'t, I think with the C\'tan, you\'ve just hit the nail on the head for the style of paintjob to go with the model.
I personally don\'t enjoy painting any models at the moment, it just seems a pain in the ass because none of them are in my favoured style, and it really hurts the grey matter to concentrate on \"wet blending\" and \"freehand\"! But just coz it ain\'t my style doesn\'t mean it don\'t have to be done!
\"my style is more like prrwssh. Your style is more like Mmmmmm! Whats that? No sorry I can\'t come in man!\" - Levis 2004
Hang on I\'m not as talented as you and I still don\'t limit myself to one style! Many people love the \"beyond real\" style, and many models suit it (usually sci-fi models) some models don\'t, I think with the C\'tan, you\'ve just hit the nail on the head for the style of paintjob to go with the model.
I personally don\'t enjoy painting any models at the moment, it just seems a pain in the ass because none of them are in my favoured style, and it really hurts the grey matter to concentrate on \"wet blending\" and \"freehand\"! But just coz it ain\'t my style doesn\'t mean it don\'t have to be done!
\"my style is more like prrwssh. Your style is more like Mmmmmm! Whats that? No sorry I can\'t come in man!\" - Levis 2004
Cerridwyn1st
New member
Boy, now THERE\'S a tough question...
Now you\'re talking, kid. Look, get a dose of reality, why don\'t you? I know there are places with very high standards for painters. But where I hang out, I\'m a god. OK, so they are used to looking at REALLY crappy stuff.
What looks bad to you may be the bees\' knees to someone else.
Take your minis and go where the real gamers are, not painters. They will love your stuff, and your ego will skyrocket.
You just have to ask the tough questions, don\'t you? Pretty much it\'s a set price per figure, but I doubt there\'s a hard and fast rule for that one. Exact amout depends on the skill of the painter and how much clients are willing to pay
What is your time worth? What are they willing to pay? How soon are they going to want the piece?
When I first started painting, I did stuff for other people so I could practice without having to pony up for more lead. When I started getting hit with more stuff than I wanted to do, I started charging. When the price I charged wasn\'t enough to keep from being swamped, I charged more.
I\'m just getting some large-scale commissions. One of my friends asked me to do an army. Honestly, I\'m still working out exactly how much to charge people.
When I\'m asked about a commission, I ask three questions:
1) What\'s your budget?
2) What quality do you want?
3) How fast do you want it?
If the amount of effort the person wants put into the piece jives with how much he or she is willing to pay you to do it, then accept the commission. Otherwise, turn it down.
How much to charge? A friend of mine charges $5 for a D&D character fig. I don\'t think it\'s worth it to pick up a paint brush for that little per fig, unless we\'re talking an army. I charge double what he does of a character, less for army rank-n-file, more for heros or specials.
Another person I know does large-scale GW minis, and charges double what the mini costs, with the client providing the fig. So a $50 GW mini would be $100 for her to paint. She doesn\'t use that scale for smaller figs, since it doesn\'t compute that well.
It all depends on what the market will bear. If you get too little work, your prices are too high. If you get too much, your prices are too low. Adjust accordingly.
Now you\'re talking, kid. Look, get a dose of reality, why don\'t you? I know there are places with very high standards for painters. But where I hang out, I\'m a god.
OK, so they are used to looking at REALLY crappy stuff.What looks bad to you may be the bees\' knees to someone else.
Take your minis and go where the real gamers are, not painters. They will love your stuff, and your ego will skyrocket.
You just have to ask the tough questions, don\'t you? Pretty much it\'s a set price per figure, but I doubt there\'s a hard and fast rule for that one. Exact amout depends on the skill of the painter and how much clients are willing to pay
What is your time worth? What are they willing to pay? How soon are they going to want the piece?
When I first started painting, I did stuff for other people so I could practice without having to pony up for more lead. When I started getting hit with more stuff than I wanted to do, I started charging. When the price I charged wasn\'t enough to keep from being swamped, I charged more.
I\'m just getting some large-scale commissions. One of my friends asked me to do an army. Honestly, I\'m still working out exactly how much to charge people.
When I\'m asked about a commission, I ask three questions:
1) What\'s your budget?
2) What quality do you want?
3) How fast do you want it?
If the amount of effort the person wants put into the piece jives with how much he or she is willing to pay you to do it, then accept the commission. Otherwise, turn it down.
How much to charge? A friend of mine charges $5 for a D&D character fig. I don\'t think it\'s worth it to pick up a paint brush for that little per fig, unless we\'re talking an army. I charge double what he does of a character, less for army rank-n-file, more for heros or specials.
Another person I know does large-scale GW minis, and charges double what the mini costs, with the client providing the fig. So a $50 GW mini would be $100 for her to paint. She doesn\'t use that scale for smaller figs, since it doesn\'t compute that well.
It all depends on what the market will bear. If you get too little work, your prices are too high. If you get too much, your prices are too low. Adjust accordingly.
vincegamer
Active member
I just realized to reach one of my goals I just have to get 135 painters who are worse than I am to get 5 minis posted with 50 votes. lol
