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squidders

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and personally i loved blade 3 a heck of a lot more than 2. mainly because of ryan reynolds, not for snipes. god that man has a large amount of smug around him.

Blade 3 has Jessica Biel in it and you liked the film mainly because of Ryan Reynolds?!?

Don't get me wrong, he had some all-time-great lines but...

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JesterzUSMC

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Blade 3 has Jessica Biel in it and you liked the film mainly because of Ryan Reynolds?!?

Don't get me wrong, he had some all-time-great lines but...

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Yeah, I agree...looking at this picture...she is SO MUCH more than a pretty face.....
 

Chrome

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Wait what? Vampire hunting boobage? Why haven't I seen blade 3? *off to google*

(Don't worry, I can handle horrid scripts, bad lines and terrible acting, after all I completely loved Tromas "A nymphoid barbarian in dinosaur hell" So much that I actually went out and bought it. :D )
 

Ravenhex

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Jaws 3D is silliness that I won (I own all the Jaws movies).

Blade 2 is way better then Blade 3. Blade 2, Directed by the amazing Guillermo del Toro and it has Ron Perlman, that is win win for me! Blade 3, way too many characters, and it had a wrestler vampire with a pet pomeranian, it was your typical 3rd movie.

No mention of the oh so fantastic Underworld trilogy ;) Aka the, "wait that's Michael Sheen? When the hell did he get buff?" Speaking of Blade, Michael Sheen is hilarious as Wesley Snipes in 30 Rock!

I think I watch too many shit movies...
 

Einion

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Well yeah, art and entertainment are purely subjective.
Yeah, totally.

The third X-men was better in your opinion?
Better than this indicates? Sure, that's not a stretch - this shows it as what, a 2 maybe? That's just someone's classic I don't like it = bad film score.

It's not up to the standard of the first two IMO either, but it's not a bad film. It would have to be actively bad to be rated that low. It's 6.9 on IMDb, which I think might be about right (I scored it higher).

You really think you're going to see a performance to top Ledger's?
Pah. Overrated much? I think far too much was made of the performance and the "dark places he had to go to" because of his suicide. Any actor worth his salt could have done the same, that is the job after all.

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IdofEntity

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Any actor worth his salt could have done the same, that is the job after all.
Einion

"Any actor worth his salt" is indeed the key phrase. The reason I think the performance was wonderful was that I completely forgot who it was behind the makeup. Not that it was dark, or morbid, or that the poor bloke was dead. On the other hand I didn't think the film was flawless. Far from it.

I will admit that no matter who makes the final cast of The Dark Knight Rises my butt will be in the theatre opening weekend.
 

uberdark

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is it me or am i i the only one who thought the dark knight was utter tripe, and the story was lacking, and batman consistently sounded like he was trying to pop the worlds biggest deuce. the only thing i liked was ledgers performance, who imho wouldnt have gotten the oscar if he hadnt died. sorry but when ya die, you become almost perfect. lol
 

Dedwrekka

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Indiana Jones: the second movie was the worst of the original three, but all three were pretty excellent. Then it all died in flames when they decided to drag the fourth one out of development hell where it belonged.
Back to the Future: I didn't think any of them were particularly terrible.
Terminator: Pretty spot on, but the fourth one redeemed the franchise
Mad Max: I'd give the first one a lower score than that. It introduced an excellent franchise (and actor), but it looked so low budget that it could have been shot by a few college students.

Pah. Overrated much? I think far too much was made of the performance and the "dark places he had to go to" because of his suicide. Any actor worth his salt could have done the same, that is the job after all.

Einion

Previous actors all failed to get across a dark side (except Mark Hamel who will always be THE joker), the thing that made Ledger's performance so excellent is that he also completely failed to be anything recognizable as himself. The acting in there was so completely out of left field for him that if they didn't put his name on the poster we'd still be wondering who played him. It's one of those roles where you manage to forget who that is playing that, and I enjoyed that immensly in a series where Bale seems to be suffering from facial paralysis throughout every movie (the man can act, but there's no direction at all!).
 
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Einion

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"Any actor worth his salt" is indeed the key phrase.
Yep, that's why I used it :highfive:

Honestly, the only parts I consider to be absolute locks for some actors (amongst those we already know) are where a specific physical type is called for, like if the character needs to be 6'4" you don't get Tom Cruise, no matter how good he's shown himself to be at action roles.


is it me or am i i the only one who thought the dark knight was utter tripe...
You might be alone there. Not as good as you'd heard, sure, it was a bit over-hyped. But utter tripe would be for me something truly bad, not just disappointing.

...batman consistently sounded like he was trying to pop the worlds biggest deuce.
True dat! Similar issue with Snipes as Blade to an extent (moreso in film #3); trying to talk quietly but with emphasis/menace, you really need someone with a deep and/or gravelly voice to pull it off properly (e.g. Clancy Brown).

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IdofEntity

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trying to talk quietly but with emphasis/menace, you really need someone with a deep and/or gravelly voice to pull it off properly (e.g. Clancy Brown).

Or you may need the opposite. Wouldn't you say Anthony Hopkins manages to instill menace without using a deep and/or gravel voice?
 

Dedwrekka

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Or you may need the opposite. Wouldn't you say Anthony Hopkins manages to instill menace without using a deep and/or gravel voice?

Yeah, but part of that is facial expressions and features. Hopkins manages to look menacing and somewhat sinister even when he's not trying to be, such as in Meet Joe Black.
When 80% of your face is under a mask, including the area around the eyes, then the options for menace get very slim. Besides, it's become something of a staple for the batman actor to have a low pitched/gravelly voice.
 

Dragonsreach

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I'm hoping the newest Batman, despite his gravvly 'batman' voice, will continue to buck the trend.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Read the Graphic Novels, Jim. There's a number of times Jim Gordon comments on Batman's 'Gravelly' voice and how it is effective.
1st one good. 2nd one better....Third one???
Here's hoping.[/QUOTE]

Blade 3 has Jessica Biel in it and you liked the film mainly because of Ryan Reynolds?!?
Girls has some serious hotness.

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She fits in my "Serious Eye Candy" list and not just for her looks either.
She has a great sense of humour about her 'architectural appeal' to men (and women).
 

Yuggoth

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I`m not too fond of the new batman movies either. I think the "realistic" approach just isn`t working.
It makes thase elements that are outright fantastic look very peculiar. I hope you can understand what I`m trying to say, I could probably express it better in my own language.
Its a matter of contrast. Burtons Batman (I+II) was set in some kind of artsy dreamworld which somehow worked a lot better with the idea of a millionaire playboy who dresses as a bat than the grim and gritty approach of the new filmes. But I agree that Batman III and IV just where too campy without having the lovable utter sillyness of the 60th tv show.
 

Einion

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Or you may need the opposite. Wouldn't you say Anthony Hopkins manages to instill menace without using a deep and/or gravel voice?
Different kind of thing to what I meant, but to answer the question in relation to his portrayal of Lector, the previous incarnation of him in Manhunter by Brian Cox is far more effective IMO (apart from anything it's more like he's supposed to be, from the books).

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supervike

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Different kind of thing to what I meant, but to answer the question in relation to his portrayal of Lector, the previous incarnation of him in Manhunter by Brian Cox is far more effective IMO (apart from anything it's more like he's supposed to be, from the books).

Einion

I was a big fan of Manhunter before Silence came out. Hopkins was great as Lector, but you were right Brian Cox has a certain chill about him in that role.

I think Red Dragon was a remake (or closer to the book) although I've skipped that one on purpose.
 
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