Torn blue sky
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I doubt they'd even bother with the basket when they paff me down there...
the wet nurse
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I don't think you've addressed the point made. One of the things that art is supposed to do is to move people. Shock art takes this to an extreme, lacks any subtlety, and is probably a sign of a society (however localized) in a state of decadence. As startling or grotesque as this piece is, it has the merits of being subtle and enigmatic. For example, it has been widely criticized on the one hand as being misogynistic; on the other it has been identified as a radical feminist piece. It's probably not meant to be either, but there it is.
Art is not said to be in the eye of the beholder. That place is occupied by beauty. And there is a growing body of science to suggest that basic concepts of what is beautiful are in fact shared by most people. As well, there is a point at which relativistic tropes like this are of little utility. Because you say it is not art is as meaningless as me saying it is if everyone has the right to identify what it is.
The Attic word for art was "techne". Clearly, this piece has been born of careful, thoughtful, skilled labour and technique. It has an abundance of ideas emanting from it. What it is good for is to be viewed while on display. There are only a limited number of copies of the piece. It has caused an uproar in the admittedly small community that is concerned with it. It fascinates the eye, and challenges our preconceptions. There is good reason to believe it capable of being properly called a work of art. Simply to say it isn't because anyone can say it isn't, without something more, just doesn't cut it for me.
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Wyrmypops
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Hadn't looked in on this thread till now cos the mini, when seen on the frontpage, inspired me not at all. Just seemed a bit meh. Skillfully made, but did nothing for me. A bit Gigeresque, but not enough to stand with Giger-stuff. All the boobs made it seem quite juvenile, so many of them crammed onto the chest looked too much, but the pair up on the neck really screamed it, ludicrous stuff. And such Page3 boobs, might have seemed less childish if a range of boobs shapes and age were sculpted.
Reading back, the creatures tendril purporting to be some means of draining fluid, seems to me to be a rationalisation after the fact. It clearly evokes Manga's infamous tendril rape.
I'm not offended by that kind of thing (though I don't do Manga as I find it tedious and a partcular flavour of puerile I can't be doing with), I'm more down with the understanding that porn and fantasy sate and mitigate rather than exaserbate and inspire behaviour that wouldn't otherwise occur.
Still wouldn't give this mini room in a figure case let alone a shelf, just because it looks silly and ill-concieved, not because of content.
Reading back, the creatures tendril purporting to be some means of draining fluid, seems to me to be a rationalisation after the fact. It clearly evokes Manga's infamous tendril rape.
I'm not offended by that kind of thing (though I don't do Manga as I find it tedious and a partcular flavour of puerile I can't be doing with), I'm more down with the understanding that porn and fantasy sate and mitigate rather than exaserbate and inspire behaviour that wouldn't otherwise occur.
Still wouldn't give this mini room in a figure case let alone a shelf, just because it looks silly and ill-concieved, not because of content.
Gonna have to disagree with you, Carpasia. Art, by its very nature and definition, lends itself to subjectivity and the perceptions and interpretations of the viewer. And I subjectively perceive and interpret this sculpture as a piece of hackneyed contemptible crap.
FWIW Wyrmypops, the pair of boobs on the neck are actually part of a pregnant female form that's kinda melded into the back. They do look beyond stupid, but that's why they're there, and not as the "oh hey, let's stick a couple here too!" afterthought that they appear to be.
FWIW Wyrmypops, the pair of boobs on the neck are actually part of a pregnant female form that's kinda melded into the back. They do look beyond stupid, but that's why they're there, and not as the "oh hey, let's stick a couple here too!" afterthought that they appear to be.
Torn blue sky
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lmao, I can see it now. "Hey boss, I think I've finished with this thing."
"Mmmmm no, needs something else"
"Like what?"
"Boobs, more boobs. Put some on it's head too."
"Mmmmm no, needs something else"
"Like what?"
"Boobs, more boobs. Put some on it's head too."
JesterzUSMC
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And here I thought I'd already responded to this?....
I bought two. Got them today in fact. Numbers 21 and 22.
The imagery is not disturbing to me, and originally I thought the sculpt was a tad on the lazy side, but I was struck by the giger-ish impressions, and the uniqueness of it, enough to buy 2 at any rate.
I will likely try one in flesh tones, and one in "Alien" shiny black tones.
Looking at the mini in hand, it is quite a bit smaller than I had thought when I bought it. So my impressions of the level of detail/quality have changed, bigger would've been less impressive, but this isn't even as big as a 40k Dreadnought. The level of detail is actually astounding on such a scale, since I had originally thought it would be comparable to a rhino or Heavy WarJack.
There is no disguising/mistaking the "tail" as anything other than a phallus, the "business end" is just too well represented to be anything other than the cause of the women's belly situation.
What I like most is the (tongue in cheek/snarky smirk) rear of the beasty. It reminds me of the "brain bug" from the starship troopers movie.
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The mix of genitalia imagery is disturbing on some level, but is not sexually simulating.
Definitely more of a lean towards the "Hellraiser" cenobite imagery.
The cenobites, to me, were more scary than sexy.
As far as the offensiveness of it.
I don't care. I stopped caring when society forgot Abraham Lincoln's words of wisdom regarding the ability to please everyone.
Anything you do will offend someone. And some people can find a way to be offended by anything.
I give up caring about other people's "feelings" as far as "politically correctedness" goes.
I don't think that any "stimuli" from our environment can be blamed, even partially for someone's behavior.
Blaming anyone, or anything, for your actions and choices is just weak, and lazy and so very "American" nowadays.
When people can take responsibility for themselves, maybe we can find progress in society and ourselves once again.
That's all.
CHEERS!
I bought two. Got them today in fact. Numbers 21 and 22.
The imagery is not disturbing to me, and originally I thought the sculpt was a tad on the lazy side, but I was struck by the giger-ish impressions, and the uniqueness of it, enough to buy 2 at any rate.
I will likely try one in flesh tones, and one in "Alien" shiny black tones.
Looking at the mini in hand, it is quite a bit smaller than I had thought when I bought it. So my impressions of the level of detail/quality have changed, bigger would've been less impressive, but this isn't even as big as a 40k Dreadnought. The level of detail is actually astounding on such a scale, since I had originally thought it would be comparable to a rhino or Heavy WarJack.
There is no disguising/mistaking the "tail" as anything other than a phallus, the "business end" is just too well represented to be anything other than the cause of the women's belly situation.
What I like most is the (tongue in cheek/snarky smirk) rear of the beasty. It reminds me of the "brain bug" from the starship troopers movie.
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The mix of genitalia imagery is disturbing on some level, but is not sexually simulating.
Definitely more of a lean towards the "Hellraiser" cenobite imagery.
The cenobites, to me, were more scary than sexy.
As far as the offensiveness of it.
I don't care. I stopped caring when society forgot Abraham Lincoln's words of wisdom regarding the ability to please everyone.
Anything you do will offend someone. And some people can find a way to be offended by anything.
I give up caring about other people's "feelings" as far as "politically correctedness" goes.
I don't think that any "stimuli" from our environment can be blamed, even partially for someone's behavior.
Blaming anyone, or anything, for your actions and choices is just weak, and lazy and so very "American" nowadays.
When people can take responsibility for themselves, maybe we can find progress in society and ourselves once again.
That's all.
CHEERS!
Torn blue sky
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The Cenobites were something else it reminded me of! If only I could have put my finger on it earlier...
If you put your finger on it, the finger would most likely be gone now....
SkelettetS
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really? in my head the cenobites are cold and brutal, and not jolly and covered in boobs. also, cenobites are damn cool, while this nurse... well... :messed:
Torn blue sky
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I was double thinking putting that! Then I thought i'd keep it in the post and see who took the bait, I am not shocked by this revelation!
Skelly, dude, this thing doesn't look jolly to me haha!
JesterzUSMC
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I have missed this place SO much more than I had thought....<grabs white coat with buckles in the back> ...I've come home again!
Greatdevourer
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The main model itself wasn't impressive nor was it disturbing to me. It was a lump of 'flesh' with an #ss tone of breasts. and some arms. For me, the prize of the sculpt would have been the additional nude figures that came with it. Those have potential in other areas. The boob monster is a nice starting place, but a bit to juvenile for my tastes.
SkelettetS
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no?
well, if i were her and covered in boobs, id sure hell be jolly!
I believe you are thinking of little nicky not hellraiser, i knew id seen this titts on the head thing before!
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Torn blue sky
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Holy crap! That was what was nagging at me! Well caught.
Torn blue sky
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Did you know, "Tengu" is Japanese for Goblin? Specifically a Japanese mountain Goblin.
I'm full of these useless factoids...
I'm full of these useless factoids...
JesterzUSMC
Recovering Megalomaniac
no?
Well, if i were her and covered in boobs, id sure hell be jolly! :d
i believe you are thinking of little nicky not hellraiser, i knew id seen this titts on the head thing before!
lmao! Love it!
No Such Agency
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All I remembered from that movie was 1) the stupid, and 2) Henry Winkler. How did I miss head boobs?
