Tierd of COOLmini or not
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Jazz is for losers
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I think someone hasn\'t bothered to read this thread.
redarmy27
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No, I did read the thread and from what I understand of it, it seems that he\'s taking the constructive comments from DR as insulting. DR wasn\'t going out of his way to bash his work, he was giving him tips on how to improve his work. No need to make assumptions about my comprehension of the topic thank you much.
mrrocknroll
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Strange thing with this concept of being annoyed / upset or what ever when people do comment or don\'t comment because people either don\'t like your painting or think it\'s not as good as you may think. But as some have already have said and will probably say again to someone later on further down the line, when you post a picture of a completed mini and view it to be commented or rated such as this site does, we should all come to accept that not everyones gonna like our work. These kinda things are always gonna be subjective with what peoples idea is of a \"Good piece\". I\'m not saying that it\'s right to \"flame\" peoples on here, because I\'ve never really read anyones comments where thats applied, but some harsh wake up calls are sometimes needed and makes us realise that there is room for improvement to our work to make us better painters (or what ever else we do).
Anyway I\'m always grateful when people comment on the mini\'s I paint
good or bad, I\'m still learning the basics and try to improve mini after mini using the concepts that people have taught me via emails or by posting on sites such as these.
I Should get back to painting now I\'ve finally got spare time lol
Anyway I\'m always grateful when people comment on the mini\'s I paint
good or bad, I\'m still learning the basics and try to improve mini after mini using the concepts that people have taught me via emails or by posting on sites such as these.I Should get back to painting now I\'ve finally got spare time lol
redarmy27
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Originally posted by mrrocknroll
Strange thing with this concept of being annoyed / upset or what ever when people do comment or don\'t comment because people either don\'t like your painting or think it\'s not as good as you may think. But as some have already have said and will probably say again to someone later on further down the line, when you post a picture of a completed mini and view it to be commented or rated such as this site does, we should all come to accept that not everyones gonna like our work. These kinda things are always gonna be subjective with what peoples idea is of a \"Good piece\". I\'m not saying that it\'s right to \"flame\" peoples on here, because I\'ve never really read anyones comments where thats applied, but some harsh wake up calls are sometimes needed and makes us realise that there is room for improvement to our work to make us better painters (or what ever else we do).
Anyway I\'m always grateful when people comment on the mini\'s I paint
I Should get back to painting now I\'ve finally got spare time lol
Here here. Well said. Branching off what you said, unless someone is going \"OMG your painting skills suck\", don\'t take it that they\'re picking on you. A lot of times people will say why they don\'t like something and will give you tips to improve your work.
Thunderhawker
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CHEERS TO THAT!!!:drunk:
hamhamlunchbox
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just saw that thread and i still dont get wombats point.
dragonsreach left a comment on one of my minis as well and i was glad that i finally got one with usefull \"hints\" lol
it seemed to be a bit rough when i first saw it,but it wasnt. #1 vocalization (like already mentioned) is missing and comments like \"i like this one\" dont help me.of course i want ppl to like my minis,but its more important to me to improve my skills and that i like my own minis.
i was checking the comments on your minis and couldnt see any insults.you should be glad if painters like dragonsreach comment on your minis.
dragonsreach left a comment on one of my minis as well and i was glad that i finally got one with usefull \"hints\" lol
it seemed to be a bit rough when i first saw it,but it wasnt. #1 vocalization (like already mentioned) is missing and comments like \"i like this one\" dont help me.of course i want ppl to like my minis,but its more important to me to improve my skills and that i like my own minis.
i was checking the comments on your minis and couldnt see any insults.you should be glad if painters like dragonsreach comment on your minis.
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Completely disagree. This person wants to use CMON to whore his wares and then starts slagging the place when others use the place AS IT WAS INTENDED - as a venue to vote and comment on painted figures.
The bullying comments are a crock - there\'s no evidence of that at all. If you don\'t want to get shot down in flames on a forum, then it\'s probably best not to wholesale slag said forum off!
The conundrum is a simple one to solve: if you can\'t take criticism, don\'t post pictures.
I agree with the bullying and the last comment (not buying into the \"whoring of wares\" comment). If you put your work out there and want comments, expect bad and negative ones. There would have been a time when the \"top 50\" would have recieved negative feedback. One of the reasons that they are in top 50 is because they did listen to all comments and strived to work harder.
Infidel Castro
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Do you think all the Top-50 give a monkey\'s chuff what everyone else thinks? How many of them are active in the forums for example? Just a thought...
Avelorn
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But that is pretty singleminded. It is possible to only want to show of the work to the world and perhaps not wanting harsh criticism, that does not make anyone a lesser human being. Handling criticism is not easy for some people (for a lot of people actually) And you are not going to change these people with this post on this forum. I rather see everybody post miniatures and sometimes having a tantrum on the forum then not posting at all.
So I have to say I agree with Meg!
hamhamlunchbox
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actually some of them are.and others are in other forums most of the time
Queen of Credits
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words of wisdom
@ Fieldarchy: you are a wise woman, indeed.
@ wombat: Speaking as one who herself has been known to throw her toys out of the pram in a temper tantrum over perceived lack of appreciation of my \'talents\' (I am speaking of me, not you), let me say I have learned that one\'s harshest critic on this board can sometimes turn out to be the best teacher. I was fortunate enough that the hand I \"bit\", turned around and graciously helped me (further) altho a lesser person might understandably have scribbled me off as an eccentric. l admit to remaining eccentric, but I do aspire to improve myself. Sometimes medicine is bitter to swallow. That doesn\'t mean it\'s not beneficial.
Continued good luck with your mini-painting. If people are buying your minis, that is because they are liking what you produce. As you improve with experience, they will simply buy more.
@ Fieldarchy: you are a wise woman, indeed.
@ wombat: Speaking as one who herself has been known to throw her toys out of the pram in a temper tantrum over perceived lack of appreciation of my \'talents\' (I am speaking of me, not you), let me say I have learned that one\'s harshest critic on this board can sometimes turn out to be the best teacher. I was fortunate enough that the hand I \"bit\", turned around and graciously helped me (further) altho a lesser person might understandably have scribbled me off as an eccentric. l admit to remaining eccentric, but I do aspire to improve myself. Sometimes medicine is bitter to swallow. That doesn\'t mean it\'s not beneficial.
Continued good luck with your mini-painting. If people are buying your minis, that is because they are liking what you produce. As you improve with experience, they will simply buy more.
OK this has gone way off course. I stand by the fact at no stage did I say I was the best, or even close, and this inst about my ego, as a matter of fact my therapist says its quite the opposite problem. I was merely venting my frustration at an email I received, from another eBay painter. Now normally i wouldn\'t be bothered with it, but my 17yr old brother, who I raised and is more like a son is getting test done on a growth in his brain and as such I was already near breaking point. I didn\'t mean any ill against dragonsreach or anyone else who comments on my mini\'s, i appreciate the feedback, I wrote it in the fire of the moment and as such the meaning got lost. I do apologize to the community and want to say TY to Meg in particular for not jumping on the bashing bandwagon.
OH and next rounds on me :beer:
OH and next rounds on me :beer:
generulpoleaxe
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respect mate, not many people people will get up and say sorry nowadays.
green stuff
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And at least 75% don\'t live in an english speaking country; but most do hang out on forums that speak their language.
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Shadzar
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Originally posted by Avelorn
But that is pretty singleminded. It is possible to only want to show of the work to the world and perhaps not wanting harsh criticism, that does not make anyone a lesser human being. Handling criticism is not easy for some people (for a lot of people actually) And you are not going to change these people with this post on this forum. I rather see everybody post miniatures and sometimes having a tantrum on the forum then not posting at all.
So I have to say I agree with Meg!
Is it possible to post gallery images and disable comments per image, by the gallery owner? Or even delete comments by the owner sicne they do not count for anything and the rating displayed with them is just a formality.
I think the emails initially mentioned are from the system.
X has left a comment about your Y on CMoN.
I agree that some comments are not at all helpful, but there is nthing inforcing a standard on the site to determine what is considered helpful.
As to the Konrad mini in originaly question I will not both with the image for a comment, but say I think the cloak is a bit dark, but that could just be the picture and my monitor. I didn\'t really se anything else that bothered my except for the cloak seeming to be a single color. Sorry did not vote on the mini or see the other comments, I just looked at the mini itself which I am prone to do when viewing the gallery.
On a side note maybe the intentions of the painter should be included in with gallery pictures so some of those that think images not worthy of Shawn RL, etc abilities are just garbage. Not saying Shawn would say something is garbage, just a favored exceptionla painter of mine around here for those odd things like the steam mushroom.
Something that lets people know with a radio option to tell if it is a mini for display or gaming.
Just some ideas, but I agree some comments left are not at all helpful. Ones I prefer to see are ones like.
I don\'t like it.
I love it.
What a crazy idea, (one of the above).
or something that actually points to specifics on a mini that the commentor thinks could be improved. painting techniques are not something that can be improved form a mini image because you don\'t know how the painter did it and asume how you would have done it to get that quality shown in the image. So rather than looking at the mini in comparision to the painter abilities a commenter compares to his own abilities and assumes that a fellow painter knows what he knows about painting and can just understand everything meant in a comment.
That is why I stopped posting images because people just liked to attack them with comments rather than offering usefull advice, and they were allowed through the system.
Anyway, good luck on your eBay sales, I know a few people that would buy your Konrad if they had a use for it because of its darker more noir flavor that exact realism.
