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SmashyStudios

New member
my second cent

as i was reading the second page of this forum, something donned on me.... Maybe this guys some evil genius, whos trying to get all of us to go to his site and look at his figures?.... and as i pondered further... something else donned on me.... theres nothing close to genius having anything to do with him.... I remember kids when i was younger, that did things they thought were funny to be cool... when they werent funny or cool, and maybe this is one of those cases. Its probably just immaturity, when it comes down to it.

I understand a themed army, like the nazi thing some of his pieces portray, and that ok, i guess, but then theres the excuseless giant, that for some reason feels the need to tell everyone his ancestral decent. Thats differ\'nt.

Oh well, just a Paddy\'s view :rolleyes:
 

finn17

New member
I don\'t think we can hold that against him...

Originally posted by Primeval
I think the fact that the poster has not even tried to explain himself of apologize doesn\'t say much for him. I have to assume that not only did Borg change the name, he must have sent him a message about it.
If I f*cked up on a Dutch site with a linguistic error I wouldn\'t hang around to explain. Not because I am a coward, but simply \'cos I don\'t speak Dutch and I believe in the adage that says, \'When you find yourself in a hole...stop digging\'.
Also, I suspect that 99% of the folks who post pictures don\'t even glance at the forums, even if they know they exist.
I suspect that we have actually done this to death now, but we keep picking at it like a scab. I wasn\'t going to comment further, but Primeval has a knack of saying things I can\'t leave alone :flip:
One day, he and I are gonna get together down the pub and then we\'ll really sort out the world\'s problems:bouncy:
 

Primeval

New member
SEE!?!?! I told you you still disagree with everyone (or maybe it\'s just me lol)!

Seriously, you make a good point.

And I won\'t be joining you at the pub because you might have that Slaine figure wrapped in a sock waiting to whack me in the head with it in an attempt to \"convince\" me to see things you way :D
 

Ebonbuddha

Active member
Because he is Brown.

Would you stop eating Green Giant vegetable be cause the Giant is green and that\'s what they call him. Calling him Nigger Giant was a bi tasteless. But if you look at modern culture slang it\'s being used not just for blacks. But caucassions as well. Actually it\'s a play on the word nigger and white. They call them Wiggers.

When I work on \'black\' skintones I call it what it is. I call them negroid skintones. It\'s the scientific classification.


Originally posted by Klute
My two pennies,

As for the brown giant.
I on a personal level find this name nearly as offensive as the first.Why n****r,why brown,why any thing.It is a giant whatever colour and putting a colour in the name is the wrong way to go.
 

Ebonbuddha

Active member
Yeah. I fell that I am stronger. I can say/hear/read/ the word and not get offended when I am using the it to educate people. My Korean friend here is really into Hip Hop. Nigga is a common word in Hip Hop. I explained the meaning of it and nigger as best as I could. Why? So many people do racist thing here and use the excuse \"I didn\'t know. I don\'t get exposed to different people\" So I educate him, and other people, by not being overly sensitive about the word. You can’t educate by saying such Seaseme Street things as the “N” word. What word would that be? Noodle? Nod? Nookie? Noble?

As for not pissing people off…YOU WILL ALWAYS PISS PEOPLE OFF. People will get offended by something someone does or says. It will be a cold day in Hell before that stop happening.

Example: My mother is American. She is a black woman. She hates being called African American. She wasn’t born in Africa. Our family history says her grandfather was black and her grandmother was full blooded Indian. Or Full blooded Native if you are in Canada. She hates Afro-American too.
She would rather just be called American.

I’m not even going to get into the time my wife’s best friend got chewed out because he referred to someone as a black guy. After the girl finished going on her rant about the guy should be called African-American the black guy in question says,’I’m not African. I’m not American. I’m from Spain.’ The girl felt like a complete idiot and stormed off.


**EDIT**
\"I give up on you Ebon Bhudda. I don\'t really think you get it and that surprises me really. Stronger? Again bravo. You\'re the man. Truly. Wave it like a flag.\"

<<I am a man. but I don\'t think I\'m THE man.But I am happy that I can see things from different points of view,and I try understanding before I get angry. I actually try to use tolerance and understanding unlike the \'open-minded\' people do.

\"You will always piss people off\" Sure you will. I\'m just saying that you don\'t need to. You are right, it wll be a cold day in hell before people stop treating one another poorly.

<<My point is someone will always get offended by something you say. You don\'t have to try to offend. When I look at some of the stuff that people get offended over now,I think about the stuff that my family went through in the past. I kind of laugh. It looks like people are just looking for stuff to whine about now. That\'s what I meant by you will always offend people.

That doesn\'t make it alright. Excercise respect thats all. Few are as strong as you. I doubt you will. I\'m beating a dead horse I think.

<<I completely agree with showing respect. I asked what he wrote that was so bad. No one answered me. I later see it wasn\'t the \'Brown Giant\" title, but the \'Nigger Giant\' title was wrong. It was offensive. Maybe he was part of his shock paint style. No one truly knows what he meant because he hasn\'t spoken.

Anyway I think I\'ve had enough of this. Let\'s just agree to disagree. Carry on my brother or whatever.

<<Yeah. Whatever. I\'m not your brother. I don\'t know you. You give up on me? I don\'t remember asking you to save me.




Originally posted by The Artisan
As for Ebon Bhudda, I don\'t see this about being \"stronger\" Or even \"thick skinned\" Bravo for you. I see this being about common respect in a respectful place. I can let this roll off of my shoulder as well but why not educate someone. What is wrong with respecting someones feelings? This world would be a better place if we all took a moment out to think about our actions and stop pissing off each other for something so simple. Not a lot to ask really is it?
 

johnboyjjb

Active member
There\'s also
http://www.coolminiornot.com/45998
and
http://www.coolminiornot.com/45996
Both are grossly offensive I think, but have not yet been removed. And frankly, they should stay.
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I think the idea of modeling characters of a genocidal race after genocidal world dictators has some creativity.

Most language translaters would translate to black or negro so I doubt it was completely accidental.

I am :eek: to find someone else who actually knows swaziland exists, let alone having been there too.

Due to a predominately lighter skin toned selection of minis I would title a mini of dark skin tone to represent that it is something different.

I personally find African-American to be offensive. I\'d say a majority of \"African-Americans\" have never been to Africa - let alone emigrated from there. If you have carmel colored skin you are a carmel American. You wouldn\'t be a different race - you are still human right? I have yet to see an race box for German-American. Or English-American. You would be classified as Caucasian. Though to be truly Caucasian you would be of Chechen decent. Race names are never meant to bring people together - but to separate.

ZaPhOd - what were you doing in Swaziland? - I was being born
 

The Artisan

New member
I give up on you Ebon Bhudda. I don\'t really think you get it and that surprises me really. Stronger? Again bravo. You\'re the man. Truly. Wave it like a flag.

\"You will always piss people off\" Sure you will. I\'m just saying that you don\'t need to. You are right, it wll be a cold day in hell before people stop treating one another poorly. That doesn\'t make it alright. Excercise respect thats all. Few are as strong as you. I doubt you will. I\'m beating a dead horse I think.

Anyway I think I\'ve had enough of this. Let\'s just agree to disagree. Carry on my brother or whatever.
 

borg

Administrator
I think everybody has said their piece, no point beating on a dead horse.

I am going to lock the thread now. Just remember to be mindful of other people\'s feelings as we have an international community here at CMON, and just like the rules for the forum:

1. No personal attacks. Doesn\'t matter if you were attacked first, just report it and move on.
2. Keep criticism constructive, polite and limited to painting and modelling
3. Avoid excessive smiley use, replying multiple times in the same thread in succession, ALL CAPS and other annoying, \"noisy\" or attention seeking behaviour

If in doubt whether or not your post would break the rules, don\'t post.

WARNING: The majority of the Forum denizens are polite and considerate of each other. We have a very low threshold of tolerance for social defectives. If you can\'t keep it polite, take it elsewhere. It\'s not a question of crossing the line but rather staying well away from it.

Now get back to painting some miniatures *whip*
 
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