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Am I the only one who thinks that it's bloody awful? Stupid wings (with even more stupid flick-knives on the ends), ridiculous armour, idiotic pose, crap rider and seat thing....

It's like a test piece that they've slapped a load of shit on just to "Warhammer" it.
 

MightyChad

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I thought the bull was meant to be flying, but I cannot be sure. I like the beasty though, good looking mini. I may be biased, since I am just happy that Forge World is doing Fantasy stuff for a change. Black and Gold? That's App State's colors. Michigan fans will be familiar with App State. Good times.
 

skeeve

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Am I the only one who thinks that it's bloody awful? Stupid wings (with even more stupid flick-knives on the ends), ridiculous armour, idiotic pose, crap rider and seat thing....

It's like a test piece that they've slapped a load of shit on just to "Warhammer" it.

I would not go that strong but on a scale from 1 to 10 it is about 4. Not "bloody" but awful enough :)
 
Come on, credit where it's due: that is shit.

The Taurus isn't something I'd go for but I think you're being altogether too harsh. The sculptor, as far as I know, hasn't sculpted too many full pieces. Disregarding years of conversion GSing etc, you could probably count the number on 2 hands. Maybe 2 hands and a foot.

Taking a good look at the details and fantasy proportions and wotnot they're very fair, and by details I mean the crispness and general quality of the workmanship. I think the model is too busy and I'm not mad keen on the posture but I suppose a good deal of the blame can be apportioned to whoever supervises the range. The higher-ups as it were. And the concept artist, but I can imagine that it all looked very decent in 2D. Actually it's not even all that over-burdened with surplus detail really. That Space hulk guy, among many other examples, seems to have more pointless shit crammed into a mini one tenth of the size of this, most of the stuff on the Taurus is perfectly legit (given current trends - I generally like something a bit more minimal), it's just the pose and the aforementioned wing clutter that aren't so great, in my opinion.

The main reason I think you're being a bit of a twunt is that you probably wouldn't be anything like as curt or glib if the creator posted the piece himself and said "look what I did". Or even if you knew he'd read the forums and see your incisive evaluation. I don't know if he's an active member these days but there's a not-insignificant chance, yet your comments give the impression that you really don't care either way. And that you'd gladly punch a juvenile platypus.

Oh I'm guilty of the same offence and I know Tortoise is too (the careless criticism, not the abuse of aquatic mammals) so I shouldn't be outraged. I'm not. I just want to support Tortoise. The lad has talent, I'm sure we'll see many great things.
 

BPI

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I find this one a peculiar 50:50 mix. Though I'm not in the market for big models so am not a prospective purchaser.

I like the bull shape and I don't mind the pose, it's fun. I'm particularly amused that the person who grinds away, gets it painted and based and then plays a game with it, spends most of the time with it's danglies being waved in their face as they push it forward across the table :D I like the dwarf too, especially the fact that he's not wearing an immediately offputting helmet and his forward lean feels right to match the mount. People in cages hanging from either side are the kind of quirky options I like too.

I don't like any of the bits that look as though they've been peeled off a Scibor model and slapped onto this one. Excessive armour plates, particularly on and around the wings are horrible. Wings joining to body look like glued on additions rather than part of the creature, where's the musclutaure that lifts such a heavy body off the floor? Perhaps putty filling would lessen that effect a lot? Flat horns just mystify me. Shame, a solid model which should have been left alone and instead had loads of extraneous decoration crammed on which devalues the whole. It's even got a sodding blade stuck to it's tail!?

FW site doesn't seem to mention CD being available on his own. Would make a nice throned commander to stick in a hall or on a litter.

Cheers, B.
 

kathrynloch

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The Taurus isn't something I'd go for but I think you're being altogether too harsh. The sculptor, as far as I know, hasn't sculpted too many full pieces. Disregarding years of conversion GSing etc, you could probably count the number on 2 hands. Maybe 2 hands and a foot.

Taking a good look at the details and fantasy proportions and wotnot they're very fair, and by details I mean the crispness and general quality of the workmanship. I think the model is too busy and I'm not mad keen on the posture but I suppose a good deal of the blame can be apportioned to whoever supervises the range. The higher-ups as it were. And the concept artist, but I can imagine that it all looked very decent in 2D. Actually it's not even all that over-burdened with surplus detail really. That Space hulk guy, among many other examples, seems to have more pointless shit crammed into a mini one tenth of the size of this, most of the stuff on the Taurus is perfectly legit (given current trends - I generally like something a bit more minimal), it's just the pose and the aforementioned wing clutter that aren't so great, in my opinion.

The main reason I think you're being a bit of a twunt is that you probably wouldn't be anything like as curt or glib if the creator posted the piece himself and said "look what I did". Or even if you knew he'd read the forums and see your incisive evaluation. I don't know if he's an active member these days but there's a not-insignificant chance, yet your comments give the impression that you really don't care either way. And that you'd gladly punch a juvenile platypus.

Oh I'm guilty of the same offence and I know Tortoise is too (the careless criticism, not the abuse of aquatic mammals) so I shouldn't be outraged. I'm not. I just want to support Tortoise. The lad has talent, I'm sure we'll see many great things.

One thing I want to make clear, I didn't start this thread to make fun of the sculptor. While Taurus is not my cup of tea, I love the fact that it's different.

How much of it is concept artist or sculptor, I don't know but either way, I think it's obvious the sculptor went outside the box for different influences and sources. I applaud that! I would love to see more of this in the hobby as a whole rather than rehashing old ideas to death. (GW's new minotaurs come to mind.)

Tortoise definitely has talent! I am definitely looking forward to seeing what he does in the future.
 

marjedi

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Uhhh the gw minos, some of the worst minis ever made by them, even comes close to beating the nagash miniature as the fugliest ever. Badly proportioned muscles, ugly heads and those horrid feet.

Posing flying monsters oddly seems to be the trend atm, just look at the storm of magic ones. A limp wristed manticore is a world first...


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The main reason I think you're being a bit of a twunt is that you probably wouldn't be anything like as curt or glib if the creator posted the piece himself and said "look what I did".

I couldn't give a flying fuck who sculpted it. If they took offense at a random Internet posting I'd suggest they get a thicker skin. Thing is, this is a premium commercial sculpt from a supposedly elite manufacturer. It's not up to scratch IMO - Over-priced, poorly executed and looks like the product of the conceptual ramblings of a 13 year old. I'm sure they'll sell loads of them!
 

matty1001

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The Taurus isn't something I'd go for but I think you're being altogether too harsh. The sculptor, as far as I know, hasn't sculpted too many full pieces. Disregarding years of conversion GSing etc, you could probably count the number on 2 hands. Maybe 2 hands and a foot.

Taking a good look at the details and fantasy proportions and wotnot they're very fair, and by details I mean the crispness and general quality of the workmanship. I think the model is too busy and I'm not mad keen on the posture but I suppose a good deal of the blame can be apportioned to whoever supervises the range. The higher-ups as it were. And the concept artist, but I can imagine that it all looked very decent in 2D. Actually it's not even all that over-burdened with surplus detail really. That Space hulk guy, among many other examples, seems to have more pointless shit crammed into a mini one tenth of the size of this, most of the stuff on the Taurus is perfectly legit (given current trends - I generally like something a bit more minimal), it's just the pose and the aforementioned wing clutter that aren't so great, in my opinion.

The main reason I think you're being a bit of a twunt is that you probably wouldn't be anything like as curt or glib if the creator posted the piece himself and said "look what I did". Or even if you knew he'd read the forums and see your incisive evaluation. I don't know if he's an active member these days but there's a not-insignificant chance, yet your comments give the impression that you really don't care either way. And that you'd gladly punch a juvenile platypus.

Oh I'm guilty of the same offence and I know Tortoise is too (the careless criticism, not the abuse of aquatic mammals) so I shouldn't be outraged. I'm not. I just want to support Tortoise. The lad has talent, I'm sure we'll see many great things.

You can analyse it to buggery, it's still shit.
 
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