Uhm uhm lack of creativity?

[mistamick]

I can never undercoat metal easily, and it falls apart easier, and is more expensive so I\'d say plastic. Is this actually what this thread is about?

 

[penguin]

DRINK! :beer:

Read through the whole thread and you will notice that, as always, the topic has slipped.

 

[mistamick]

I never read through the whole thread usually, unless its very short.

 

[Torn blue sky]

Wheee!!! Thats it more or less settled:twisted: Plastics are better!!!
To be honest I really do like the plastics that GW do, as Penguin pointed out, you get sooooomuch stuff in a box for what adds up to pennies, and c\'mon, be honest! The quality IS actually pretty damn good. Plus as Sebastien pointed out the conversion sides easier AND...wait for iiiit...the paint adheres much beter to plastics
Good god, I feel faint now... Aaaaand DRINK!:beer: Ahhhhhh

[Edited on 8-1-2006 by Torn blue sky]

 

[Hoblit]

yeah, but plastic models don\'t make that satisfying thunk when you throw them across the room in frustration.

(Also, I am now half a freak hehe)

 

[Tony Manero]

 

[green stuff]

Message original : SebastianRushworth
The paint sticks much better to plastic than metal. I\'ve never seen paint chip off a plastic model.

I\'m sorry Seb but I really don\'t understand this phenomenon. You do prime and varnish your minis right? So unless your minis keep falling off a table, I don\'t see how there can be a difference ... at least I never noticed it .

Back on subject : the only thing that really bothers me on the Autarch is the combination of the wings and the cape. Sure it\'s cool, but it doesn\'t seem very functional (and yes I know this is sci-fi/fantasy ). I guess I\'ve just been watching \"The Invincibles\" too much .

 

[Tony Manero]

Originally posted by green stuff

Message original : SebastianRushworth
The paint sticks much better to plastic than metal. I\'ve never seen paint chip off a plastic model.

I\'m sorry Seb but I really don\'t understand this phenomenon. You do prime and varnish your minis right? So unless your minis keep falling off a table, I don\'t see how there can be a difference ... at least I never noticed it .

Back on subject : the only thing that really bothers me on the Autarch is the combination of the wings and the cape. Sure it\'s cool, but it doesn\'t seem very functional (and yes I know this is sci-fi/fantasy ). I guess I\'ve just been watching \"The Invincibles\" too much .

right, no cape dahling

 

[Ebonbuddha]

I noticed this when i wirst saw it. I was waiting for someone else to point it out. The wings from the helmet is from the old Dark Angel Captain. Looks like they just had a kit bash, put out the product, and charged you an arm and a leg. Something anyone here can do.
Check out the model.
HERE!

 

[Torn blue sky]

CRAP! I knew that plume was way too familiar!
Hmmm, the phrase \"Time and money\" comes immediately to mind...though i\'m loathe to say it

 

[Avelorn]

I actually like most of it and the overall impression it gives. If it\'s in plastic I can see endless converting possibilities..

@Ebon: No it\'s most definately not. And it would probably take more time to chop the things off, convert them and glue them in place then to sculpt new ones.

 

[Ebonbuddha]

I very seriously doubt that. It takes a long time to sculpt from what I understand. A lot longer than using snipes to cut off the wings from another model helmet and fixing them to a guardian. The thing even looks like it is made from bits of other minis.

Not to mention; they own all of the stuff. Why wouldn\'t they pay a guy to go and play with some bits and make something as opposed to pay a sculptor to do a good job? Who here wouldn\'t jump at a chance to do it?

 

[EArkham]

Those helmet wings are not identical.

That\'s not to say that GW hasn\'t done this in the past. The Chaos Thugs series from the late 80\'s and the Dark Eldar Mandrakes both come immediately to mind, though there are others.

But this is not one of those times.

Kep

 

[green stuff]

@EB : I\'m with Sven on this one. I\'ve got the DA captain and it\'s not the same shape. Plus the eldar has a \"brush\" whereas the DA had feathers. If they did use bits, I think they rather canibalized an avenger aspect warrior or exarque. But if Jess or Juan are behind this than I think they went for a direct sculpt (seriously beats taking out the hack saw ).

 

[Dammekkos2]

GW do that all the time. Space marines are a prime example, they will often produce 2 or more sculpts form a single \'dolly\'. Those wings are not such a case though, they\'re distinctly different.

 

[Tony Manero]

indeed, also the shape is different, the new ones are curved, the old ones were straight in the middle

 

[Thecadian]

they are differant deefinatly

i much prefer plastic.it is easier to convert ,paint and generally mess around with.Also they are slightly less expencive

only 1/2 my life savingslol

 

[Ebonbuddha]

As I said before you don\'t nee a hacksaw.You can use a pair of snips. Any idiot can see that. Which is what my point ways. He said it takes too long too long to simple convert as opposed to using bit. I said that not true.
They don\'t just care about time. its also money. And it is easier (and cheaper) to kit bash or convert than sculpt.

I see what you mean about the helmet. He could have been converted using this MODEL. It the Ultramarine Captain at hte bottom fo the page.

And those arethe wings from Baharoth. I\'m looking at my model right now. And its his.

Originally posted by green stuff
@EB : I\'m with Sven on this one. I\'ve got the DA captain and it\'s not the same shape. Plus the eldar has a \"brush\" whereas the DA had feathers. If they did use bits, I think they rather canibalized an avenger aspect warrior or exarque. But if Jess or Juan are behind this than I think they went for a direct sculpt (seriously beats taking out the hack saw ).

 

[green stuff]

Message original : Ebonbuddha
I see what you mean about the helmet. He could have been converted using this MODEL. It the Ultramarine Captain at hte bottom fo the page.

That\'s not a conversion. Hardly has the shape and would be a lot easier to just sculpt it.

 

[toxc]

Hi,
I cant believe that so many people in a miniature-forum prefer plastics.
Does that mean you rate conversion-comfort higher than details ?
Even a good plastic mini is far less detailed than a good metal mini, just look at the sharp edges or the hair.
And for a serious miniature-painter the conversion of a metal-mini should be no problem, thats what saws are for.