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finn17

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They are the ones!!

Tracey will have to work hard to beat this one though:

Tate Gallery buys canned crap
Arts Now

London - The Tate Gallery has paid £22,300 ($52,000) for 30 grams of the feces of Piero Manzoni, a 20th-century Italian concept artist.

Can 004 is one of a series of 90 cans, called merda d\'artista, that Manzoni created in 1961. Manzoni, who died in 1963 at age 29, said he canned his own excrement and sold it for the price of gold at the same weight as a statement on the art market.

In fact, the Tate paid about $1,700 per gram for the feces, more than a hundred times the going rate for gold.

However, a spokeswoman for the gallery told the London Telegraph that the Manzoni piece was a bargain at that price. She called Manzoni an incredibly important artist and his Can 004 \"a seminal work.\"

The Tate bought the work some time ago, but the price became public only last week.

The Pompidou Museum in Paris and the Museum of Modern Art in New York also have samples of Manzoni\'s merda.

The cans should increase in value, too, as they are becoming more rare. At least 45 of the original 90 cans have exploded.

The irony would not be lost on Manzoni. In a letter to a friend explaining merda d\'artista, Manzoni said his motivation for canning and selling his own feces was to expose gullible art buyers.

\"I should like all artists to sell their fingerprints (he did, on hard-boiled eggs), or else stage a competition to see who can draw the longest line (his longest was 7.2 km) or sell their s--- in tins,\" he wrote.

\"If collectors really want something intimate, really personal to the artist, there\'s the artist\'s own s---,\" wrote Manzoni.



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dauber22

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Originally posted by finn17
.She called Manzoni an incredibly important artist and his Can 004 \"a seminal work.\"

Now, wait a minute! If Can 004 is a SEMINAL work, shouldn\'t it be filled with....
WEll :innocent: Never mind. :D;)
 

Klute

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There were a couple of guys on Eurotrash once that painted with their bodily fluids and solids.In fact there were probably more than a couple.:D

K L F I remember ,the guys with the tank,classics.Tammy Winnit on a housey song.And it worked.:eek:
 

finn17

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Oh ye of little faith

Originally posted by Gypsy
I don\'t believe that.
Type \'Piero Manzoni\' in any search engine and see for yourself.
Let\'s be honest, I couldn\'t have made that up cos no one would have believed me:D
 

supervike

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i\'ve flushed my fortune...

Woe is me. I have been flushing gold down the drain for years.

I have been told I am \"full of it\" many times.

I will start taking orders, as I can process the orders and the product in the same amount of time.....

PM me if you\'d like a batch, I\'m brewing some fresh right as we speak....
 

darthfoley

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Originally posted by supervike
Woe is me. I have been flushing gold down the drain for years.

I have been told I am \"full of it\" many times.

I will start taking orders, as I can process the orders and the product in the same amount of time.....

PM me if you\'d like a batch, I\'m brewing some fresh right as we speak....

I swear...I\'ve lost like a quarter mil in the last two days alone! :D
 

supervike

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close but no cigar....

This is as close as I can come to a diarrhea emoticon (thank the heavens!)

:moon::moon::moon:
 

Dragonsreach

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Staff member
Originally posted by finn17
Originally posted by BrianFowler713
Is she a mini painter?
She is a conceptual artist most famously known for exhibiting a tent, an unmade stained bed and appearing totally out of her face on TV.
She can\'t be entirely stupid however, as she must be worth a fortune because dunderheads actually pay large sums of money for her work.

This is the sort of thing

If you scroll through the pictures, 2 and 6 are hers.
BrianFowler713 has asked a very intriguing question. How many of the \"Concept Artists \" could paint a mini?
How many of them could hold a paint brush?

Question: How many \"Conceptual Artists\" does it take to change a light bulb
Answer: None. Because the Lightbulb ALREADY IS.

(An attempt a humour against Pseudo\'s everywhere.)
 

Sand Rat

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Saw this today and thought it appropriate - http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/tonyparsons/

Second section of his rant. :D
 

frenchkid

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Originally posted by Smoth
Originally posted by Dedwrekka
I just want to know how many cavases with one colored line went up with the blaze.

Amen, I hate those twits!

Well Actually I believe an Artist ou goes by the name of mondrian is responsible for those. And I\'d have to say that critisising a piece of art ( or call it wathever you want if it makes you happy) without knowing the thouhts that were put into it of the reason for its beeing is completly stupid. And having read a book by the artist explaiing in extensive details is style of painting I can say that he can advance some good reasons for the way he painted, and he definetly did not throw paint at a canva. So if you\'re gona critisize somthing critisise the idea behind the painting wich you might not agree with, but I really don\'t see how you could critisize something you don\'t understand.
 

finn17

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If that were true...

Then artists could avoid all criticism by simply stating that anyone who didn\'t like their work simply didn\'t understand it...

A common excuse of the sort of artist who considers an unmade be to be art:moon:
 

supervike

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remember that one fella...

Wasn\'t there someone on the forums a while back that did exactly that....

RLobinkse or something....

Claimed that if you didn\'t like his work, it was you didn\'t understand the \"naturalistic style\" he was working in...

Didn\'t work then either....lol
 

Bloodfinger

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Originally posted by finn17
Then artists could avoid all criticism by simply stating that anyone who didn\'t like their work simply didn\'t understand it...

A common excuse of the sort of artist who considers an unmade be to be art:moon:

That\'s exactly what she (\"the hatchet-faced hag of Brit Art\" lollol) said in her interview with David Frost on Sunday.

It\'s all our fault for not being \"educated\" about art apparently!

:duh:
 

finn17

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Hatchet-faced hag...

just for once then, I am happy to remain in blissful ignorance:flip:

It\'s the \'Emperor\'s New Clothes\' phenomena. People are afraid to criticise, or laugh out loud, in case they appear ignorant. And thus the charlatan steals the show and nicks all the money once again.
 

Sand Rat

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I have to admit, my taste in art varies. I will be one of the first to state that Picasso\'s \"Guernica\" is a moving piece of art, as was \"Hell\". What I don\'t like or agree with in the least bit is the attitude that artists are somehow superior to the rest of us, and as such deserve special treatment. All of us have some marketable skills, and this is how we make a living. The artists who make money off the government teat are not, in my opinion using their artistic skills (if they were they would not need government support, imho) they are using their ability to bilk the government. Also, imho, if art is supposed to speak to people on an instinctual level, why should they have to explain it? But, if it is utter crap, as most of the art that requires explanation is (again imo), then they have to explain thier \"vision\" and this pisses them off, thus making them act superior to the \'umble plebian masses who just don\'t get it.

Rant off
 

dauber22

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Rant on, Mr. Cult! It seems to be going around ;) :innocent:
You have very succinctly stated my opinion on the matter for me. I especially like this part:

\"The artists who make money off the government are not, in my opinion using their artistic skills...they are using their ability to bilk the government.\"
 
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