Duno about that artist in particular, so I really can\'t say. I was just refering to mondrian, who is definetly not throwing paint on a canvas, or drawing random one color lines. And I do believe that you have to understand or try to understand a bit about a piece of art befor eyou critize it. And actually it\'s the same about everything, you don\'t go critizing people\'s opinion befor you understand what they mean and you think a bit about what that implies. I duno what explanation the lady gives for her unmade bed, but I\'d be interested in seeing it
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Duno about that artist in particular, so I really can\'t say. I was just refering to mondrian, who is definetly not throwing paint on a canvas, or drawing random one color lines. And I do believe that you have to understand or try to understand a bit about a piece of art befor eyou critize it. And actually it\'s the same about everything, you don\'t go critizing people\'s opinion befor you understand what they mean and you think a bit about what that implies. I duno what explanation the lady gives for her unmade bed, but I\'d be interested in seeing it
(mainly)@Frenchkid: I made studies to be a museum curator. Now I work with lots of galleries and museums...
My opinion is that Steve is totally right... Most of contemporary art is crap... Tou could say that I can\'t understand this form of art. In fact, my main thought is that art has been mixed with advetising since the mid 20th century (specifically Pop art, see Warhol\'s \"Campbell soup\")...
Furthermore, \"Hell\" is one of the less shocking art pieces of the Chapman\'s brothers... Most of the other include children and genitals...:|~They make me sick...
My opinion is that Steve is totally right... Most of contemporary art is crap... Tou could say that I can\'t understand this form of art. In fact, my main thought is that art has been mixed with advetising since the mid 20th century (specifically Pop art, see Warhol\'s \"Campbell soup\")...
Furthermore, \"Hell\" is one of the less shocking art pieces of the Chapman\'s brothers... Most of the other include children and genitals...:|~They make me sick...
tooshy
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Well....
...if an unmade bed can be passed off for art, then hell, my whole house must be full of the stuff lol The pile of dirty dishes in the sink.....ART!! The newspapers and magazines stacked in the lounge... ART!! The unmown lawn....ART!! HEY! I think I like art...
I haven\'t shaved my legs for a while either (apologies if I\'ve grossed anyone out...but it IS art )
...if an unmade bed can be passed off for art, then hell, my whole house must be full of the stuff lol The pile of dirty dishes in the sink.....ART!! The newspapers and magazines stacked in the lounge... ART!! The unmown lawn....ART!! HEY! I think I like art...
I haven\'t shaved my legs for a while either (apologies if I\'ve grossed anyone out...but it IS art
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Yep She\'s back! lolOriginally posted by tooshy
...if an unmade bed can be passed off for art, then hell, my whole house must be full of the stuff lol The pile of dirty dishes in the sink.....ART!! The newspapers and magazines stacked in the lounge... ART!! The unmown lawn....ART!! HEY! I think I like art...
I haven\'t shaved my legs for a while either (apologies if I\'ve grossed anyone out...but it IS art
But would the Pink Elephant class as \"ART\"?
tooshy
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Hairy Elephants
@ Steelcult - well I\'m not that hirsuit, I\'m actually \'saving\' up so that I can practice with my new \"wax-on wax-off\" contraption. I just know it\'s going to hurt like bollocks, but the memories have almost faded from my last experiment....
@Dragonsreach - I would say Pink Elephants are the very height of art - especially after a few *hic* :|~ *hic*
@ Steelcult - well I\'m not that hirsuit, I\'m actually \'saving\' up so that I can practice with my new \"wax-on wax-off\" contraption. I just know it\'s going to hurt like bollocks, but the memories have almost faded from my last experiment....
@Dragonsreach - I would say Pink Elephants are the very height of art - especially after a few *hic* :|~ *hic*
darthfoley
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Well, that makes one.
I don\'t care what type of existential, post-modernistic, psychobabble explanation is delivered...one line (even multiple, different colored lines) on a piece of paper (or sheet of canvas) is not art.
Then again...as Dennis Miller once said...I think 95% of what passes for art in this world is shit...and 4 of the other 5 percent is shit with an asterisk.
Aaaarrgghhh!!! That word....
\'Post-modern\' :flame:
(Darth, I am with you all the way man....)
The phrase, \'post-modern\' means nothing!! It is utter tripe. Camouflage for the witless, lacklustre, wannabe, artistic, pseudo-intellectual parasites that poison our planet.....pant...pant...pant...
Here, if anyone doubts it..look at this extract from a post-modernist \'essay\':
Material theory in the works of Madonna
Anna L. de Selby
Department of Sociolinguistics, University of California, Berkeley
1. Material theory and neoconceptualist materialism
\"Society is part of the stasis of sexuality,\" says Sontag; however, according to Reicher[1] , it is not so much society that is part of the stasis of sexuality, but rather the economy, and hence the dialectic, of society. However, if social realism holds, we have to choose between Lacanist obscurity and capitalist destructuralism. The primary theme of the works of Madonna is the common ground between reality and society.
But Finnis[2] suggests that the works of Madonna are reminiscent of Cage. Bataille uses the term \'social realism\' to denote not, in fact, appropriation, but neoappropriation.
Therefore, a number of theories concerning a submodernist whole exist. In Material Girl, Madonna examines material theory; in Erotica she affirms the semiotic paradigm of context. But the main theme of Buxton\'s[3] essay on social realism is the role of the reader as writer. If neoconstructivist libertarianism holds, we have to choose between neoconceptualist materialism and dialectic pretextual theory.
2. Madonna and social realism
If one examines material theory, one is faced with a choice: either accept neoconceptualist materialism or conclude that truth may be used to disempower the underprivileged. However, Derrida promotes the use of the semioticist paradigm of discourse to modify and analyse sexual identity. Several materialisms concerning neoconceptualist materialism may be revealed.
Just an extract (thank God) but, this essay was generated at random by a computer.
Don\'t believe me....check here:
http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern
Art schmart, bullshit will always continue to baffle brains...unfortunately
\'Post-modern\' :flame:
(Darth, I am with you all the way man....)
The phrase, \'post-modern\' means nothing!! It is utter tripe. Camouflage for the witless, lacklustre, wannabe, artistic, pseudo-intellectual parasites that poison our planet.....pant...pant...pant...
Here, if anyone doubts it..look at this extract from a post-modernist \'essay\':
Material theory in the works of Madonna
Anna L. de Selby
Department of Sociolinguistics, University of California, Berkeley
1. Material theory and neoconceptualist materialism
\"Society is part of the stasis of sexuality,\" says Sontag; however, according to Reicher[1] , it is not so much society that is part of the stasis of sexuality, but rather the economy, and hence the dialectic, of society. However, if social realism holds, we have to choose between Lacanist obscurity and capitalist destructuralism. The primary theme of the works of Madonna is the common ground between reality and society.
But Finnis[2] suggests that the works of Madonna are reminiscent of Cage. Bataille uses the term \'social realism\' to denote not, in fact, appropriation, but neoappropriation.
Therefore, a number of theories concerning a submodernist whole exist. In Material Girl, Madonna examines material theory; in Erotica she affirms the semiotic paradigm of context. But the main theme of Buxton\'s[3] essay on social realism is the role of the reader as writer. If neoconstructivist libertarianism holds, we have to choose between neoconceptualist materialism and dialectic pretextual theory.
2. Madonna and social realism
If one examines material theory, one is faced with a choice: either accept neoconceptualist materialism or conclude that truth may be used to disempower the underprivileged. However, Derrida promotes the use of the semioticist paradigm of discourse to modify and analyse sexual identity. Several materialisms concerning neoconceptualist materialism may be revealed.
Just an extract (thank God) but, this essay was generated at random by a computer.
Don\'t believe me....check here:
http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern
Art schmart, bullshit will always continue to baffle brains...unfortunately
