Vallejo Blood Red

[Bloodhowl]

I think, reading through all the posts, what was said is that VGC Blood Red pigment has a tendency to settle to the bottom and will not mix with shaking alone ( post 12) Give it a really good stir, add an agitator to the bottle and it should be ok.

However, realize that it will still take several coats over dark base coats to get a nice smooth red. If you use a foundation paint (old color was mechrite red, I believe, I'm not sure what the "new" equivalent is) it will take less layers than painting straight over a black base coat.

 

[Bartali]

I think, reading through all the posts, what was said is that VGC Blood Red pigment has a tendency to settle to the bottom and will not mix with shaking alone ( post 12) Give it a really good stir, add an agitator to the bottle and it should be ok.

However, realize that it will still take several coats over dark base coats to get a nice smooth red. If you use a foundation paint (old color was mechrite red, I believe, I'm not sure what the "new" equivalent is) it will take less layers than painting straight over a black base coat.

I don't mind painting multiple coats of paint - in fact I prefer as it allows me to gradually build up the colour in some spots, while leaving others darker. I used to do :-

White Spray Primer->VMC Red (928)x2->GW Carrisbourg Crimson Wash->GW Blood Redx3->Highlights.

I'll pick up both VGC Bloody red and VMC Vermillion I guess and have a play with both

 

[MAXXxxx]

I'd go with the Vermillion.
The VGC one may be a bit closer in shade to the GW-BloodRed, but the other offers better pigmentation and consistency.

Mechrite red --> Mephiston Red (this one looks a bit better, more red, less browny than the mechrite one, so in this case I think the new is better than the old color).

 

[DannyBoy2k]

As the original poster...all I can say that the Vallejo blood red *I* got was utterly TERRIBLE. If I had shaken that bottle more, people would've thought I'd been a jack-hammer.
And it was no use what so ever. The paint was watery, it beaded over the undercoat, it 'mottled' and didn't give a consitant cover, due to the watery-ness(interesting word),
and was just a misery. I don't mind multiple coats either, but not 20-30 to get some sort of consistancy, on a bog-standard marine.
Now, I cannot say that ALL or even MOST examples of that paint is like that. But the one *I* got was, and I tossed it.
And, as the thread mentions, I didn't seem to be the only one having a problem with it.
I should, in all fairness, say that I've tried other colors from Vallejo and had NO problems, though, something that is important to note.

 

[Bloodhowl]

Have you tried bloody red again, to eliminate the possibility of a bad batch?

 

[RuneBrush]

As the original poster...all I can say that the Vallejo blood red *I* got was utterly TERRIBLE. If I had shaken that bottle more, people would've thought I'd been a jack-hammer.
And it was no use what so ever. The paint was watery, it beaded over the undercoat, it 'mottled' and didn't give a consitant cover, due to the watery-ness(interesting word),
and was just a misery. I don't mind multiple coats either, but not 20-30 to get some sort of consistancy, on a bog-standard marine.
Now, I cannot say that ALL or even MOST examples of that paint is like that. But the one *I* got was, and I tossed it.
And, as the thread mentions, I didn't seem to be the only one having a problem with it.
I should, in all fairness, say that I've tried other colors from Vallejo and had NO problems, though, something that is important to note.

That was my experience for the Vallejo paints too - out of the handful of colours I used, I had similar problems with about half (including a really glossy yellow). It's the reason why I've got about half a dozen Vallejo paints now and the rest are Citadel and P3.

 

[DannyBoy2k]

Have you tried bloody red again, to eliminate the possibility of a bad batch?

In all fairness, no I haven't. Less due to fear of the color than that I just haven't needed that color since. I used P3, and was happy with that,
and haven't used any light shade of red since, really.

 

[Major_Goose]

Few minutes ago i used a new bottle of this color with no problems . Maybe it was a whole production range with some issue ?

 

[Bloodhowl]

Few minutes ago i used a new bottle of this color with no problems . Maybe it was a whole production range with some issue ?

Could have been. It happens from time to time. I've had my bottle for over three years now and do not have the issue with Bloody Red the OP had. I did have an issue with one of the yellows that was very similar to OP's experience, but as yellow is a PITA color anyway, I figured it was just the nature of the beast. Could be the run of that color in that year was crap. I thought I read that Vallejo had changed their formula in the last year or two. Could have been a case of that production run of paint being garbage, then they changed the formula to correct the issues.

 

[Kalidane]

Coat d'arms Blood Red _is_ Blood Red. Unless the last couple of iterations of GW Blood Red were a different formulation - I can't remember as all mine kept drying out before I really did much with them. How I wish I'd transferred to dropper bottles

 

[Bartali]

I've now tried using VGC Bloody Red and didn't get on with it at all. Didn't produce consistant results and frequently required re-mixing on the pallete as it seperated.

Luckily the VMC Reds are much better. Using 926 Red, 947 Red and 909 Vermillion and very happy with the results