Vindicare Assassin

[JayeL]

Here is a vindicare assassin I converted. I have always liked the GW illustration of the Vindicare perched atop a pillar so I decided to convert it up.

Currently it is sitting at a 6.8, is that all it is worth? I thought a high 7 at least.

Comments/criticisms anyone.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/139879

New Link: http://www.coolminiornot.com/139794

 

[Ritual]

Seems very smooth and all. Pictures are a bit small, and that can be a hurting factor. But I voted it a bit higher, at least.

 

[electrolito 77]

Agree with Ritual. The pics are a bit small, poeple on this site dont vot e on how they imagine the mini looks like but what they see, and I see very little... Looks outstanding to me, because I am the minority that looks at the pics closely, and voted it high to compensate for your loss. Another thing I see besides what I just agreed with Ritual is that it seems a bit off balance on its pose. I also see something wrapped around the pole... is this like a harness to help him stay stabilized? If it is, disregard that last comment, if not, take that into account too. Maybe a lot of people noticed that and voted low, keep in mind the average person does not commnet on a mini just for the hell of it. Anyway, great work, maybe post bigger pictures with more angles and hopefully your work will rate higher!!! Cheers!

Mike :drunk:

 

[the alleycat]

Got an 8 from me. I think the painting looks great, but more and bigger photos of the assassin would help.

The composition looks a little awkward to me and i\'m not sure that the bits of gold go particularly well with the mini though

 

[ZaPhOd]

I will be contacting you about entering this image in the Toadstools.

 

[JayeL]

Image removed due to some abuse received from some people (not on CMoN, I may add).

To clear things up...

I have went back to the mini and blended the leg a bit more. The mini on CMoN is the original photograph tweaked to show the mini as it currently stands (the batteries died on my camera as I took the first picture). The first image on CMoN in my opinion did not show the true mini there was an overhead striplight switched on which caused a bad reflection on the minis leg which lead a lot people to believe the mini was badly highlighted and I tried to remove that reflected light as best as possible in the second photograph. This was not done in an attempt to fool people it was more a way to remove a random artifact from the original image (a process I am sure a lot of photographers use).

I apologise if people see this as me \"trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes\" but that was not the intention.

@ZaPhOd - Contact me with regards to the pic in the Toadstools.

 

[karmazov]

I must say, it looks really boring. to clean, too light to be, imo, an assassin.

The pillar he\'s sitting on is also makes me thinks, \"how the hell did he get up there, and in the name of the Emperor, WHY?\" He\'s all black and stealthy, and then he places himself on a light grey pillar 10\' over ground, now that must be one stupid assassin :drunk:

I\'ll keep myslef to the pillar for a bit longer, how did the grass start growing on the top? now, grass needs earth to grow, and I can seem why it should grow on rock, 15\' above the ground.

So all in all, considering the paint job too, I give this a 5.5, but I\'ll round it up to 6, this piece is just not realistic enough to make a higher score, and the overkill base ain\'t helping, it\'s making it worse, unfortunatly

 

[JayeL]

Hi Erik, the mini is supposed to be a representation of an older GW illustration.

The vindicare was perched on top of an eagle on a pillar.

ps it is common for grass to grow on old and/or ruined buildings and stonework, but thanks for your input anyhow.

John

 

[philologus]

I went to your gallery to see this model, and I think it\'s great! I know the pic your are referencing and I think you captured the feel well. It also reminds me of a comic I read about a Vindicare, the guy was jumping all over the rooftops etc. Great work. Don\'t be discouraged by the negative coments.

 

[karmazov]

Originally posted by JayeL
ps it is common for grass to grow on old and/or ruined buildings and stonework, but thanks for your input anyhow.

John

not on top of a 15\' pillar with no crevasses of any kind on top of it where do the roots go? into the soldig block of rock?

And even if it\'s based on a piece of art, I still think the lightgrey/black really make this look so unrealistic (and above all, stupid), if the pillar was darker, I would have no problems with it, its just that a supersniper posing himself to a light background seems a naïve move, and Vindicares are not naïve, they\'re the sniper elite

 

[philologus]

Originally posted by Erik

Originally posted by JayeL
ps it is common for grass to grow on old and/or ruined buildings and stonework, but thanks for your input anyhow.

John

not on top of a 15\' pillar with no crevasses of any kind on top of it where do the roots go? into the soldig block of rock?

And even if it\'s based on a piece of art, I still think the lightgrey/black really make this look so unrealistic (and above all, stupid), if the pillar was darker, I would have no problems with it, its just that a supersniper posing himself to a light background seems a naïve move, and Vindicares are not naïve, they\'re the sniper elite

Here\'s a pic of grass growing on top of a stone monument taller than 15 feet. As long as the surface is flat enough for windblown soil particles to collect the seeds will find their way there and sprout. Besides...He was imitating a GW drawing.

 

[karmazov]

you did see what kind of ground material the base of the Vindicare has? Small rocks, pebbels (its grey!) and grass dont grow in small rocks and pebbles, it need soil.

 

[Orb]

Oh Erik!

chill out! I could suggest that the ground material is a chalk based ground cover, that can be white and indeed grey. Guess what. grass will grow on a rubbly chalk........:

ok, now we can\'t see the chalk soil in his model, but we can assume it\'s there!

Seems you\'re desparate to find things you dislike in it but we\'re all entitled to opinions. Usually people try to be constructive with their criticism but you appear just want to criticise.

A good attempt at reproducing a classic image. A bit more weathering on the column would be cool...maybe introducing some more tones and colour variations, but good job.

Oh, and this is a science-FICTION piece isn\'t it?

 

[ZaPhOd]

Well said Orb.

 

[freakinacage]

Originally posted by Erik
I still think the lightgrey/black really make this look so unrealistic (and above all, stupid), if the pillar was darker, I would have no problems with it, its just that a supersniper posing himself to a light background seems a naïve move, and Vindicares are not naïve, they\'re the sniper elite

i agree but it fits in with the original artwork so i can\'t fault you there. looks great, have been intending to do this for years (had quite a few problems converting the legs). i have to second electrolito\'s question: what is that strapped around the pole?! i can\'t see what it is supposed to be and the painting on it doesnt seem to be at the same high standard as the rest of the piece. i gave him an 8

 

[philologus]

I was trying to say the same thing as Orb, but he said it better. I think the site is called \"COOL mini or not\" not \"Botanically correct or not\" The mini IS cool I think an 8 is in order.

 

[karmazov]

Now, I don\'t give a damn if you think I\'m looking for faults, cause I\'m not, I was just mentioning my opinion, that\'s all, you vote what you think is right, and I\'ll do my voting.

Now, I also would like to point out, that for an 8, I think it takes more than just a neat paintjob and some NNM, it takes a sense of realism and some thinking before painting, this too is ONLY MY opinion, and as such, you are free to think whatever you wan\'t.

And No, I\'m still not looking for faults, Im just making a few minor points for him to maybe think about a bit extra next time, it\'s nothing personal, just pointers

 

[philologus]

Originally posted by Erik
Now, I don\'t give a damn if you think I\'m looking for faults, cause I\'m not, I was just mentioning my opinion, that\'s all, you vote what you think is right, and I\'ll do my voting.

Now, I also would like to point out, that for an 8, I think it takes more than just a neat paintjob and some NNM, it takes a sense of realism and some thinking before painting, this too is ONLY MY opinion, and as such, you are free to think whatever you wan\'t.

And No, I\'m still not looking for faults, Im just making a few minor points for him to maybe think about a bit extra next time, it\'s nothing personal, just pointers

That\'s exactly what I thought you were doing (offering your opinion). Its what I was doing as well. We just didn\'t agree.

 

[Orb]

Absolutely Erik........this site is all about personal opinion. and we will all judge things differently, and you are totally entitled to your opinion.

we need to look at the scratchbuilt elements of the base, the conversion of the figure, etc as well as realism, and the context of the piece (here. reproducing artwork, so kind of constrained there). I guess to many folks, it has an element of a wow factor, and is also familiar to many too, so they may vote accordingly.

You do point out faults as you are entitled to do, but I guess I was taken with the \"stupid\" and \"boring\" comments with out anything positive - is there anything about the mini you do like?

I think the groundwork could go with more depth.......its very monochromatic and to me needs more interest

I was wondering if the strap round the column could be the assassin\'s strap holding him in place?? not uncommon for perched snipers........but this isn\'t clear

 

[Torn blue sky]

I think your all wrong! everyone! I hate you all!

Shhhhhhh...

I like it a lot, I remember seeing this artwork and liking that a lot too! Stays pretty true to it and I reckon its got a lot of merit..so there...