What are they smoking over there?

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
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Brits are told to just leave their sheds unlocked - that way burglers won\'t damage the sheds when they break in..
??? :rolleyes: :no:
 

Ritual

New member
We had someone break into the storage rooms in the cellar of our apartment building last year. For every apartment there is one storage room. Those who had sturdy doors and good locks on them had the doors hacked to splinters and everything in the storage room spread out in the corridor outside, whereas I, who only had a small padlock and two loops fastened to the door and door frame, only got the loops ripped out. They didn\'t even destroy the padlock.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Wouldn\'t it be more prudent to just leave all the stuff out on the yard, so they won\'t have to open any doors?

Cmon, thieves need our assistance!
 

Ritual

New member
If the stuff was out on the yard kids with nothing better to do would run off with them on a whim. But, the point is, a burglar with his/her mind set on breaking into an unguarded space will get in there no matter what. Most stuff you can buy to increase security is no match at all for a somewhat experienced burglar.

So, the sensible thing is to not store anything worth stealing in an unguarded storage room and not have sturdy locks or doors, because you will only have it destroyed in case of a break-in.
 
Don\'t you just love Socialism at its finest. Just wait till the \"Bailout\" here and the Government owns everyone\'s Mortgage and they start telling you what color you can paint your house and what you can do with it.
 

demonherald

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You see the thing is it does make sense in a strange kind o way.. the heavier protected and guarded something is the less value people think it has...

also the number of times I\'ve seen people who say they were broken in they wouldn\'t mind but they did £100\'s of damage to nick something worth a tenner. At the end of the day though I\'m sure the insurance company would just laugh at me if I said I want to insure my house contents and car. I am removing all my locks and alarms and my doors with curtains. My car will be kept outside on the main road with keys in the ignition just in case anyone tries to damage the locks when they start it. I will deactivate all my alarms and leave my lights on in an evening... How much will that be a month???
 
Originally posted by Ritual
If the stuff was out on the yard kids with nothing better to do would run off with them on a whim. But, the point is, a burglar with his/her mind set on breaking into an unguarded space will get in there no matter what. Most stuff you can buy to increase security is no match at all for a somewhat experienced burglar.

So, the sensible thing is to not store anything worth stealing in an unguarded storage room and not have sturdy locks or doors, because you will only have it destroyed in case of a break-in.

There is an old adage here in Kentucky that locks are simply made to keep honest men honest. If someone wants into a shed or a house, security doesn\'t really matter.
 

demonherald

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another thought. If the sheds are unlocked does it still count as breaking and entering?? I know my brother tried to claim on his insurance when he was \"broken\" into but the police wouldn\'t give him a crime number because he had left the door unlocked. ?? apparently damage to the door would have been evidence of forced entry and therefore theft.. missing goods in a property with no evidence of break in is the owners responsibility??
 

Ritual

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@demonherald
A really shitty lock is the best option! :)

@supervike
Yeah... I know you were being your usual sarcastic you, but I sensed a seed of seriousness behind it all. Not with the leaving stuff in the yard, but... you probably know what I mean. :duh:
 

alextheartist

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I belive the varitey smoked by the \"youths\" currently is called blueberry stilton..

Alex

(and i\'m not joking either..)
 

evil tendencies

Cake or Death?
Originally posted by demonherald
another thought. If the sheds are unlocked does it still count as breaking and entering?? I know my brother tried to claim on his insurance when he was \"broken\" into but the police wouldn\'t give him a crime number because he had left the door unlocked. ?? apparently damage to the door would have been evidence of forced entry and therefore theft.. missing goods in a property with no evidence of break in is the owners responsibility??

I\'ve been on the other side of the badge, and I know where those officers are coming from. A guy came to the desk one day, and wanted to report the theft of a $20 bill from his dresser. What could I say? I took an info report that he was missing some money, but I couldn\'t file it as a crime report.

The problem with police reports is that the officer has to *show* that a crime has been committed to make a crime report. I don\'t know what your brother\'s situation was like (so ignore this if it doesn\'t apply), but an officer can get into trouble for reporting something as a crime that later turns out to be something else.
 

No Such Agency

New member
Originally posted by Dragon Forge Design
Don\'t you just love Socialism at its finest. Just wait till the \"Bailout\" here and the Government owns everyone\'s Mortgage and they start telling you what color you can paint your house and what you can do with it.

I\' don\'t think the recent British problems are \"socialism\"... they don\'t seem to offer any of the promised benefits of socialism. Rather they seem to be something along the lines of grotesque governmental paternalism - the micromanagement of people\'s private lives solely for the sake of magnifying the role and influence of government (specifically municipal gov\'t in this case). I\'m a socialist and I sure as hell don\'t want government acting anything like this. After all, you can argue about whether \"all property is theft\" but taking someone\'s possessions from their home is definitely theft, no matter what one\'s politics are, and a padlock is a basic protective tool.

As for your house paint colour... don\'t worry about the mortgage holder, worry about an HOA. They\'re an ostensibly \"free market\" based entity that make Comrade Stalin look reasonable and nuanced.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
Originally posted by No Such Agency
As for your house paint colour... don\'t worry about the mortgage holder, worry about an HOA. They\'re an ostensibly \"free market\" based entity that make Comrade Stalin look reasonable and nuanced.
NSA, you never said you used to live in my neighborhood ???

We are best known for our blue-haired, letter-writing, lawn nazis.

Celebration ( a Disney-property suburb) is probably the worst - they have a 4\" thick covenant book. (lots of \"Thou shalt not...\'s in there)
:eek:
 

No Such Agency

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Originally posted by airhead
Celebration ( a Disney-property suburb) is probably the worst - they have a 4\" thick covenant book. (lots of \"Thou shalt not...\'s in there)
Celebration is essentially a company town. Disney literally owns the whole shebang so even if you \"own\" a property there it is covenant-ed out the ass. So as long as you like living that way, according to the Disney rule book, it\'d be fine. But it is even worse than an HOA, because at least with an HOA the owners theoretically have a voice in what the rules are and how they are enforced.
 
Originally posted by No Such Agency
As for your house paint colour... don\'t worry about the mortgage holder, worry about an HOA. They\'re an ostensibly \"free market\" based entity that make Comrade Stalin look reasonable and nuanced.

Rent the animated feature \"Over the Hedge.\" The lady with the grass height measuring stick is not a hyperbole character at that point.
 

demonherald

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@eviltendencies... I know exactly what you mean that wasn\'t a shot at the authorities more a case in their defense . In my brothers case there was nothing to say at all that the stuff had been stolen just that it wasn\'t there and only his word that it was before. It is one of those situations where as you say ..what can the police do???

@NSA your statement there about paternalistic governing is just so true..UK politics (and many more worldwide) summed up.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by airhead
What are they smoking over there?
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/275313.php

Brits are told to just leave their sheds unlocked - that way burglers won\'t damage the sheds when they break in..
??? :rolleyes: :no:

F.F.S.!
Common Sense has left the building!
 

No Such Agency

New member
Originally posted by demonherald
In my brothers case there was nothing to say at all that the stuff had been stolen just that it wasn\'t there and only his word that it was before. It is one of those situations where as you say ..what can the police do???
This is why it\'s a good idea to photograph or at least itemize your valuables even if they aren\'t insured. I took photos of our whole damn apartment, including cameras, computers, appliances etc. and that\'s just for our piddly little $15k home policy. I also tend to keep the receipt and docs for my bicycle, so if it is stolen, I can give the po-po a good description and serial number... just in case.
 
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