WHAT HAVE GAMES WORKSHOP EVER DONE FOR US ?

[freakinacage]

ok, i don\'t like their business practices at all and the way they sometimes value quantity over quality BUT:

they got me interested in the hobby - and they were the first company to sell widely

as far as i am concerened, they have produced the best univese/alternate reality since tolkien (ducks!). and therefore some of the best themed fiction/sf

again - brought greenstuff to the masses

huzzah for some things then and boo for some others!

drink!

 

[Ogrebane]

I\'ll drink to that. They make the best plastics in the business.

 

[generulpoleaxe]

they origionaly made some of the best plastics, they are currently going down hill with there plastics imo.

when i was eight i started gaming, i never struggled with multi part kits.
so why are the plastic regiments becoming three part crappy kits. they look horrible. (guerilla dwarfs for gods sake.)

it is only there character models that tend to catch my eye nowadays.

 

[EPStudios]

Yeah... GW may have started strong in my eye... But has anybody else taken note of how awful the up and coming 7th edition boxed set stuff looks? Every single model in that box is worse than the 6th edition version.

Regardless.... I am moderately sick of the \"what do you think of gw\" topics. Whether they be good or bad.

.....*looks around*.... Drink!

 

[petey]

It\'s funny with the kits. When I started the hobby all plastic base troop kits were crappy and in 5 piece or less. Then they got stupendously great with high quality multiparts (20 Goblins for £10 anyone) now they seem to be going back to the start, strange no? I think it\'s because little stupid children can\'t put ordinary regiment kits together...

 

[Orb]

Originally posted by Ogrebane
I\'ll drink to that. They make the best plastics in the business.

As long as you\'re talking about plastics in the sci-fi/fantasy 28mm market, of which there\'s not many at all, yes they probably are the best; or at least the biggest.
If you\'re talking about the wider plastic scale model kit industry, they are very close to the bottom of the heap!!!!

 

[beowulfthehunter]

I hate GW with all my being, that being said they have done a great service for this industry. They created a fanbase for miniature games that exested beyound the realm of historics. They created a hobby based on affordable figures (in the oast 10 years they have given that principle the middle finger but that is hear nor there). They have given a stable face to a hobby that is very fluid (lets face it how many miniatures games have we seen that come and go). They do produce a quality product (well maybe not the rules and sure as hell not cheap).

Up untill 6-7 years ago, they also produces some of the best figures on the market. They also still produce some cool figures. As much as I hate them, I did drop 12 bucks to buy that new Dwarf lord who has has more personality then the Drunk Dwarfs.

 

[LavronYor]

It\'s like loving and hating Star Wars because Lucas allowed SciFi to be a dirty non sterile future. Then of course he let Jar Jar Binks out of the box and people said, great special effect or not, that is just crap, and then of course ILM set the standard and the rest is history. It\'s also like the US, what a great country and then we elect W and people say what happened to the management.

So, GW did start a lot of us, and the rules for their product is a bit more objective than say DND, piss off an DM and your character was going to die and horribly.

And as far as the books go, if you liked the Space Marine books, then you gotta read the Eisenhorn trilogy and develop the love for the Inquisition.

 

[Patrick]

I haven\'t spent any money on GW stuff in years and don\'t forsee doing it in the future. Particularly after the Wood Elf Incident. But here are my favorite GW contributions to the industry:

• Jes Goodwin
• Andy Chambers
• Mike McVey
• Eldar
• Skaven
• Thunderhawk Gunship

DRINK! (for my two-edged comment)

 

[generulpoleaxe]

@baeowulf, quote \"that being said they have done a great service for this industry. They created a fanbase for miniature games that exested beyound the realm of historics.\"

there were other companies before gw, some of them went under through bad management,some because of business deals with gw.

do you realize how many small business\'s they threaten with legal action, for any reason they can think of.

nearly any miniature company gets threatend by gw legal section because they have created an orc or elf, or some other stupid reason.
a lot of people don\'t realize that gw rip other peoples idea\'s off, all the time.

(yes i know bash bash bash)
drink

 

[Avicenna]

Originally posted by generulpoleaxethere were other companies before gw, some of them went under through bad management,some because of business deals with gw.

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nearly any miniature company gets threatend by gw legal section because they have created an orc or elf, or some other stupid reason.
a lot of people don\'t realize that gw rip other peoples idea\'s off, all the time.

Unfortunately that\'s business... some work, more fail. But I dont think that it can really be argued that GW have done a great service for the hobby as a whole.

I wouldnt be surprised if you looked at the pricing thing that their aggressive and often steep pricing has actually allowed more small companies to thrive than might otherwise have been the case.

 

[bayrodney]

Yay! Drink!

Although, if it wasn\'t for GW i would not be into painting mini\'s

 

[Grey Mouser]

Many of my friends also say they wouldn\'t be painting at their current levels if it hadn\'t been for GW. Having been in the hobby since the 1980\'s I have to say GW at it\'s high water mark contributed alot to this hobby. A full color magazine. A convention where painting standards were measured and trophies awarded. A popular game system for 2 genres fantasy and Sci-Fi. I think it also contributed to making fantasy and Sci-Fi gaming a household word... I.E. Warhammer video games that have been around on some of the older systems. They have even enfluenced some historical gaming, at one time they were co-owners of Wargames Foundry. Last but not least they took the lead in coming up with a hobby paint specifically for the figures they sold. I can remember the days of Polly S fantasy colors, Testors Enamels and Ral Partha colors. They have done alot of good things.I don\'t like where they are going, I hate the prices and they are obviously going through turmoil now.. some of which argueable they brought on themselves.

 

[Legacy Account]

They once gave me 3 Rhinos for a tenner, and two Land raiders for ten or fifteen quid. 30 marines for a tenner! 5 mini blisters for £2.50.......

Do you know, when I were a lad, you could go to the cinema, watch 5 films, get a fish and chip supper, catch the bus home and still have change from ten pence!

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by Spacemunkie
They once gave me 3 Rhinos for a tenner, and two Land raiders for ten or fifteen quid. 30 marines for a tenner! 5 mini blisters for £2.50.......

Do you know, when I were a lad, you could go to the cinema, watch 5 films, get a fish and chip supper, catch the bus home and still have change from ten pence!

And I can remember doing that for A Threepenny Bit! (Old pre decimal coin for all you youngsters out there)

 

[Legacy Account]

lol

 

[Jambot13]

Taking the production of plastic miniatures to a bloody high level is possibly the biggest one for me because I love converting miniatures and plastic parts makes it so easy.

Other stuff would have to include:

Hero Quest which got me into all this nonsense 16 years ago
John Blanche’s art (cue a torrent of ‘I hate John Blanche’ replies)
Dark and horrific background that slips to Pythonesque levels of absurdity at times yet still remains gritty and mature
Chaos
Blood Bowl
A salary for a couple of years (but the above would still be true if they hadn’t paid me... well, not if I had still worked for them and they hadn’t paid me. That would have been crap)

 

[freakinacage]

Originally posted by Dragonsreach

And I can remember doing that for A Threepenny Bit! (Old pre decimal coin for all you youngsters out there) [/quote]

why do i have a picture in my head of a ten year old with a moustache at the cinema?!

oh and i agree micke mcvey and jes goodwn rock

 

[razza]

hi, i remember getting home from school one day and seeing my brother looking through a magazine, (no , not that sort of magazine). i sneaked a quick look and saw that it was full of fantastic toy soliders. i was hooked from that point, and i wanted some! the next week i was playing hero quest and space crusade with my bro and his mates, i was in heaven, playing games with my older brother with toy soldiers and his friends. i did all i could to get some more figs, birthdays, xmas etc. just to be part of the group. over the years i carried on with the hobby, my brother and friends dropped out as many do. what i got from g.w was a sence of community, like cmon, being around like minded people who love miniatures and gaming, and feeling welcome. you can\'t get better than this in my opinion. after years of dreaming of painting like mcvey and the team and a lot of hard work i am in the eavy metal team. i can say that it is awesome! doing your childhood dream as a job could not be any better. i know that there are other companies and aspects to this hobby, but for me g.w and all that comes with it has made me very happy! cheers!

 

[Swordwind]

Though I like the gothic \"whatever happens you wont be missed\" approach GW has for 40k and WFB I feel they\'re going back as stated above. I was appauled (sp) when I learned the new starter box set had clip together marines. So last edition. Though I love the Eldar, Wood Elves and Guard GW is too far up its own :moon: for its own good. They didnt invent space marines. They just stole the idea from Starship Troopers and renamed the MI Space Marines.

Anyway as soon as I\'m done with my Exodites and converted Valhallans, I\'m gonna back away unless theres something VERY shiney.

Drink!