Where did all the blisters go GW

[exilesjjb]

I called in my local GW to have a thumb through the blisters looking for some nice figures to paint and found they only had about 40 WFB blisters in the whole shop:flame:
there were not that many more 40K, WTF is going on do we only buy units now
And as for the cabinet it had half painted and undercoated figures OMG I know its been a while since I went to a store but it was a mess.
I did get a bit of fun toying with the staff
draw them on with a few yer sort of, used to... and then when they get to the have you used this store before? I smile and say \"guess you could say that I used to run it\" then in the silence I made my escape.
I think I may have bought my last GW stuff I do not think it is worth it just to enter GD I may have to do Euro militaire instead.

Rant over sorry if your ears are bleeding

 

[Legacy Account]

To be fair you can\'t expect them to knock out the same amount of figures with less staff and shorter opening hours.

As for the blisters, get used to it. They\'ll be a thing of the past before long. Everything will be plastic!

 

[NGArtStudios]

Originally posted by Spacemunkie
To be fair you can\'t expect them to knock out the same amount of figures with less staff and shorter opening hours.

As for the blisters, get used to it. They\'ll be a thing of the past before long. Everything will be plastic!

*shudder* plastic be icky

 

[Ritual]

Originally posted by exilesjjb
I think I may have bought my last GW stuff I do not think it is worth it just to enter GD I may have to do Euro militaire instead.

Nowadays there are plenty of options to GD, when it comes to painting competitions. Most of the historical shows have fantasy categories and the bigger gaming conventions usually have a painting competition. GD is probably fun if you like the GW universe. But fantasy is more than just GW, so I think it\'s important to support independent competitions.

The historical shows are often more than one day, which means you have more time for socialising and looking at all the entries. They often use the open system as well, which IMO is a far better and more sensible way of judging a painting competition than handing out a first, second and third price. And you can paint any miniature from any company, you can mix parts, you don\'t need to worry about base sizes and such things.

 

[Ghaffasa]

I honestly like plastics. They are convenient to paint, easy to assemble/convert, lighter (meaning they don\'t dissolve in atoms if you happen to drop them) and apparently cheaper.

Also, you don\'t have to sit for hours to clean them before you start painting (currently doing this with the new mounted khorne lord model from GW. Oh, the drudgery!).

 

[Legacy Account]

Originally posted by Ghaffasa

...easy to assemble...

I don\'t understand this one. Most GW plastics require you to cut from sprue, prep and glue together at least 5 pieces. In comparison, the prep time for most metal minis is far less.

I despise removing mould lines from plastics. Awful task.

As for them being cheaper, well GW are in the process of rectifying this situation. I\'m not anti-plastics. I just don\'t buy into a lot of the garbage GW would like you to believe about them.

 

[Ritual]

Originally posted by Spacemunkie
I despise removing mould lines from plastics. Awful task.

Quite often, i find there is a bit of displacement between the two mould halves on the plastics making the removal even more awful.

 

[freakinacage]

Originally posted by Spacemunkie

I don\'t understand this one. Most GW plastics require you to cut from sprue, prep and glue together at least 5 pieces. In comparison, the prep time for most metal minis is far less.

I despise removing mould lines from plastics. Awful task.

i prefer placcy tbh. doesn\'t eat through blades as much! and the multi poses are handy, i am getting fed up with metal

 

[generulpoleaxe]

Originally posted by freakinacage

Originally posted by Spacemunkie

I don\'t understand this one. Most GW plastics require you to cut from sprue, prep and glue together at least 5 pieces. In comparison, the prep time for most metal minis is far less.

I despise removing mould lines from plastics. Awful task.

i prefer placcy tbh. doesn\'t eat through blades as much! and the multi poses are handy, i am getting fed up with metal

for large armies it\'s a god send, not just for weight reason but for price (if your into naps then you can get 52 infantry for £20 from victrix and the plastics are as good as gw\'s)
for the serious detailed minis though you need either metal or resin, plastic still doesn\'t cut it.

 

[Legacy Account]

Which just shows you what a rip off GW plastics are!

As usual their clientele will let them get away with pulling the wool over their eyes...

 

[uberdark]

although there is something to be said for just grabbing a metal miniature out and putting it on the base and painting away, i beleieve plastics are the future. cheaper to make and the quality is better all the time. look at the new warmachine plastic kit from menoth. i actually got the chance to assemble these for my lgs. the joins were seemless and the mould lines were almost nonexistent. with the new dual core technology you are really beginnign to see the change in quality as well.

i honestly think in the end it will be for the best. look at the world of plastics 10 years ago and look at it now. just imagine what will happen in 10 more years.

 

[Legacy Account]

Forget about quality comparisons, the point is that plastic figures are cheaper to manufacture than metal figures, but the prices GW and PP are charging don\'t reflect this.

If a small(er) company like Victrix can knock out boxes of 60 superb figures for 20 notes, GW are simply taking the piss charging 25 quid for 10 models!

 

[laurence]

Have a pint on me!

@ Ritual & Spacemunkie, ahh stop your whinging! I mean that in a friendly manner

Seriously, I like prepping plastic minis more than metal ones. After prepping the last CMoN competition mini, you know, the amazon chick with the sword behind her back. Geeze that was a prick to prep! Flash on her eyeball!! Man I hate that. Took some serious prepping. Had to whip out the putty and all to fill little crevaces where the the metal didn\'t sit right! A royal pain in the rectum. Not to mention the zapping of the gaps and the pinning. Plus I nearly broke the extremely brittle sword handle when bending it back to shape. That would have been the worst! Did it on a Rackham mini once and had to pin with a staple, and drill a hole in a space about the same diameter as my finest/smallest drill piece! Also with metal minis you need to sand, scrub and polish. Very daunting stuff! Okay, I also should stop my blooming whinging

I always prep plastic minis quicker and prefer \'em. Although, I would miss the ol\' blister packs with a nice metal mini in it, if GW actually scrap \'em!

Time will tell.

 

[Jarrett]

Originally posted by freakinacage

i prefer placcy tbh. doesn\'t eat through blades as much! and the multi poses are handy, i am getting fed up with metal

Me too. More and more I prefer to paint plastic figures and models (or even resin). I find metal more of a chore to work with now.

 

[james sequeira]

Metals can be well cast and require little or no cleaning, but most companies dont really look for casting quality hence lots of cleaning.

As a painter plastic is crap for me, I do not need 15 models, nor do I want to pay £12 for a plastic character model (omg extra bits though)

 

[uberdark]

Originally posted by Spacemunkie
Forget about quality comparisons, the point is that plastic figures are cheaper to manufacture than metal figures, but the prices GW and PP are charging don\'t reflect this.

If a small(er) company like Victrix can knock out boxes of 60 superb figures for 20 notes, GW are simply taking the piss charging 25 quid for 10 models!

first let me congratulate you on super freak status.... second....

yes gw raises their prices,an yes they rip us off. but they want money. gobs of it. and if i have to pay 20% more for my things then i will do it. gw rants aside... their quality of miniatures continually gets better and i am willing to pay for my hobby.

as others have said before, if you dont liek it, dont buy it.

i know you dont buy it either. its just.....let the horse be dead.

damn gw and their prices..... but oh well. just keep painting and move on.

 

[Ritual]

Originally posted by uberdark
gw rants aside... their quality of miniatures continually gets better...

See, this is what I don\'t get... If the quality is getting better continuously, as you say, then how come I feel it is worse than what it was 16-17 years ago when my interest in their product was at its peak? With just a few exceptions, all of my favourite GW minis are at least ten years old, and even though the plastics have gotten better since then (THEIR plastics, mind you...), they are not as good as the metal minis from back then. Metal minis nowadays are not as good as back then, IMO.

I don\'t like throwing mud at GW, as I feel I\'ve moved on and really don\'t care. But whenever I hear statements that their quality is constantly getting better, I can\'t resist giving my view. It is the quality decline (design, sculpting and manufacturing) that made me lose interest, not the price issues.

 

[Jarrett]

I think they have a few classics that are great, but generally I\'ve really found their current models are better than the stuff they used to do. It\'s personal preference of course.

 

[Ritual]

I\'ve got lots of old Citadel minis and with very few exceptions they\'re better cast than those I\'ve bought recently.

 

[jahminis]

i\'m on the fence here...
some of my classic minis are definite favorites...
some are rubbish...

i\'ve had wonderful cast, and some real nightmares from every company\'s minis...
i know the moldmakers and casters take a lot of pride in their work, but some of the packers must be smokin\' more weed than me..
sometimes i look at a miscast mini and wonder how a guy could have packed it, and still sleep at night...jerks...

i\'m a fan of a lot of the new metals, like the new mounted chaos lord, lord on juggie, herald on juggie, new mounted empire characters, master of the ravenwing, marine characters...

plastic are more convenient for conversion and variety, but i\'m not a gamer, so the cost of building an army is not an issue...

personally, i\'m stoked on the evolution that minis have gone through in the last 20 years...
the beautiful resins from ilyad and forgeworld, the sheer amount of small companies like mad puppet and enigma makin\' awesome minis, and the resin/plastic kits from alkemy and now PP...

our options have never been so vast and varied...

as to the topic...
it sucks that most of the GW blisters will be goin\' to direct sales only...
sometimes i want to go to the shop and buy a single character model, made of metal, and be able to crack it open on the way back, and get stuck in with it as soon as i get home...

soon, there will be no point in givin\' my money to a local shop, \'cause i have to buy enough direct minis on GW\'s site to get free shippin\', and the rest of the stuff i can get for 25% less online than i can at the shop...

no matter what, i still have a huge pile of cool minis to paint, so i can\'t complain...

cheers
jah