Why Americans are Fat

[paintingploddy]

@ Laurence - ???

Coming from a cricket background, and also the use of over and out on the radio that makes no sense. Try again.

 

[Shadzar]

# Over — I have finished talking and I am listening for your reply. Short for \"Over to you.\"

# Out or Clear — I have finished talking to you and do not expect a reply.

Seems to contradict each other when used together.

Seems to mean, \"over to you, but I don\'t care to hear your reply, as I won\'t be listening anymore.\"

???

 

[freakinacage]

Originally posted by laurence

--->Me---> Allow me to clear up the mystery surrounding the meaning of \'Over & Out\'. It\'s all got to do with cricket. Over means the six balls that the bolwer gets to bowl at the batsman, provided he/she doesn\'t bowl a wide, in which case he/she must re-bowl that delivery. And \'Out\' is when the batsman is dismissed for either being clean-bowled, caught out, trapped LBW, stumped by the wicket keeper or fielder while out of the crease, or unfairly declared \'out\' by the third umpire.

Hope that clears things up for y\'all

hey what do you know about cricket, you\'re an aussie!

 

[laurence]

Originally posted by freakinacage

Originally posted by laurence

--->Me---> Allow me to clear up the mystery surrounding the meaning of \'Over & Out\'. It\'s all got to do with cricket. Over means the six balls that the bolwer gets to bowl at the batsman, provided he/she doesn\'t bowl a wide, in which case he/she must re-bowl that delivery. And \'Out\' is when the batsman is dismissed for either being clean-bowled, caught out, trapped LBW, stumped by the wicket keeper or fielder while out of the crease, or unfairly declared \'out\' by the third umpire.

Hope that clears things up for y\'all

hey what do you know about cricket, you\'re an aussie!

You\'ll eat \'em words once we get our ashes back.:beer:

 

[laurence]

Originally posted by paintingploddy
@ Laurence - ???

Coming from a cricket background, and also the use of over and out on the radio that makes no sense. Try again.

To borrow a line from Agent Maxwell Smart, \"Would you believe...\"

 

[supervike]

Missed it by *that* much!

 

[Shawn R. L.]

Originally posted by RuneBrush

Originally posted by laurence
It\'s not hard to just eat what your body needs.

I actually heard somewhere that it\'s a natural human instinct to eat in excess of what your body immediatly needs.

What I have experienced first hand is that it\'s literally a matter of timing. It takes 10 minutes or so for what you eat to first start hitting the bloodstream in appreciable amounts. When I\'m REALLY hungry, the drive is to eat a lot.....like duuuhhh. If I start really chowing down it will take 10 minutes or so for the first bite to hit the blood stream. The other 9 minutes and 45 seconds of vacuuming grub is mainly excess. For a while I would get a hamburger or sandwich and have one bite every hour or so. Lost a fair amount of weight that way.

When I lost my excess 90 pounds I found that if I took one good sized bite of something with protein and some fruit - something with sugar and stopped right there, waited 9 minutes, the hunger would still go away. Been checked for diabetes and it\'s not that either. The trick there after was to simply - A. not let things get so far and B. use a bit of control waiting for the food to \'hit.\' There\'s also having to deal with the simple fact that food is a real comfort thing and that takes another line of thought.

 

[Niall]

The way people get fat is because they don\'t listen to their own body. We all have mechanisms to make us stop eating most especially you feel \'full\'. I watched a documentary the other day and it was an experiment between regular people and obese people, they would each eat the other types diet and portions. The normal people were finding it very hard to put in the same ammount of calories that the fat people did without being sick, at the end of the month the groups had gained almost a stone and lost a bit respectively.
The thin folk then went back to their daily meal sizes and routines and lost the gained weight within weeks - without excess excercise. The body controls it\'s own size in this manner which is why thin people often find it hard to put on fat and fat people balloon quickly.
My point being that people who are overweight must have bodies that decide that being 20 stone is normal for the body. The brain will fight any changes to what it deems normal.

 

[airhead]

You can quit smoking.

If you have troubles with alcohol, you can quit drinking.

If you have troubles with drugs, you can quit taking.

Not easy for any of them, but you can quit.

If you have an addiction to food, you cannot quit eating. You have to learn to eat properly. Can you imagine asking an AA\'er to learn to drink responsibly? or asking a NA\'er to only use meth on the weekends?

But overeaters have to deal with food. Several times a day. Constantly.

 

[freakinacage]

Originally posted by Shawn R. L.
For a while I would get a hamburger or sandwich and have one bite every hour or so. Lost a fair amount of weight that way.

also, with that, you are confusing your body. by continuously eating small amounts, it keeps prepping for a meal so your metabolism stays high. i eat a ton throughout a day but never a lot in one go.

@laurence, we shall see (sadly you are probably right!)

 

[Shawn R. L.]

Originally posted by freakinacage

Originally posted by Shawn R. L.
For a while I would get a hamburger or sandwich and have one bite every hour or so. Lost a fair amount of weight that way.

also, with that, you are confusing your body. by continuously eating small amounts, it keeps prepping for a meal so your metabolism stays high. i eat a ton throughout a day but never a lot in one go.

@laurence, we shall see (sadly you are probably right!)

Funny thing is that I still eat everything I used to, just not so much and I do make sure to take a \'day off\' every week.

 

[Amazon warrior]

I remember reading somewhere that some people are so unused to \"listening\" to their bodies that they cannot tell what it\'s saying. So, they might feel really thirsty but they don\'t connect the feeling with needing to drink something, instead they connect it with hunger and eat a lot of food as a result because they\'re not satisfying the core need.

(BTW, I\'m a big fan of \"eat a bit of what you want and exercise plenty\". When I remember! lol)

 

[Kalidane]

Those obesity stats linked to early in the thread appear to be from 02/03 data.

The local media recently mentioned New Zealand being the third fattest population (per the headline) at 26.5% obese behind US and Mexico 34.3 and 30.0 respectively.

OECD Health Data 2009 - Country Notes and press releases

Surely it comes down to lifestyle and personal choice for most people. As a single example, this thread has me keen to grab some McDonalds for the first time this year, which will be a 90 minute round trip on foot. Doesn\'t strike me as too harmful.

 

[Legacy Account]

And that\'s because McDonalds have been allowed to infest every corner of the country and local independent fast food chains sell humungous portions at stupidly low prices to try to compete!

If walloping booze and tabs for tax is seen as a good way to tackle those problems, why not do the same with fast food? Slap some ridiculous tax on shit food and use the revenue to subsidise better quality, healthier, locally produced foods.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by Spacemunkie
If walloping booze and tabs for tax is seen as a good way to tackle those problems, why not do the same with fast food? Slap some ridiculous tax on shit food and use the revenue to subsidise better quality, healthier, locally produced foods.

You are kidding, right?
Taxation on fast food would go nowhere near the healthy food production and just into Govt coffers, never to benefit the taxpayers.

 

[Kalidane]

Originally posted by Dragonsreach

Taxation on fast food would go nowhere near the healthy food production and just into Govt coffers, never to benefit the taxpayers.

That would inevitably be the case.

In furtherance of the widespread objective of complete abdication of personal responsibility we will see the problem addressed by regulation - calorie, sodium and saturated fat limits by weight or serving. Probably following a World Health Organisation summit in the next 3-4 years when $$$ become less of a concern for the middle class.

Jiggery-pokery in the phrasing and measuring + concessions wrung by \'industry representatives\' will determine how effective that will be in the Western countries that sign up to the nanny-fest.

\"Fear not citizens - we shall ensure you may eat 2kg of snacks while watching 4 hours of reality tv\"

Idiocracy - are we there yet? <hmmm think I\'ll sig that>

 

[Infidel Castro]

My understanding is that Aus now has the highest proportion of clinically obese folk in the world (or is that morbidly obese?). Crazy to think that Aus, that place of sporting prowess and never-say-die attitudes, has actually become so unhealthy.

Unless they\'re using BMI as the means to measure obesity. Anyone who has cyclists legs and a swarthy shape will agree with me that BMI is bollocks!

I\'m off to check the WHO site.

 

[Infidel Castro]

Look at this in the TImes:

Times article about Australia\'s weight problems.

 

[Amazon warrior]

Originally posted by reverend
Unless they\'re using BMI as the means to measure obesity. Anyone who has cyclists legs and a swarthy shape will agree with me that BMI is bollocks!

Well I\'m not much of a cyclist, but I agree that the BMI measurement is bollocks - it has absolutely no way to distinguish between muscle and fat, and muscle weighs more! So anyone who works out is automatically overweight or obese. I cannot believe that it\'s still being used when it clearly does\'t accurately represent peoples\' physiologies. It\'s probably because it\'s ridiculously easy - measure someone\'s height in cm and weight in kg, do a very quick calculation, look at a chart et voila! Instant health label.

 

[philologus]

I\'m 6\'2\" and 200 lbs. I\'ve never been overweight and have always been active. Discussions like this inevitably lead to suggestions of govt. regulation for the good of people who are \"too dumb\" to make the correct choices for themselves. The U.S. is very close to getting ourselves into a medical nightmare administrated by the govt. and this definitely will be one area of govt. regulation. Frankly people should absorb all the consequences of their own decision-making, good or bad. I personally would rather live in a country where I have the option of being 26 lbs. over weight (an average I saw on TV at work just yesterday) than 26 lbs. underweight. I ran across this quote yesterday and it seems appropriate.

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer



The problem is not obesity in the US, it\'s a culture of zero-accountability that turns individual problems (like controlling one\'s self around food) into national issues.