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Why I detest plastic minis
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Greylikestorms
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I prefer metal over plastic, to be honest. With metal, I find it's actual easier for me to clean off the mold lines - plastic I've always thought was more difficult, even though you should simply be able to use an xacto to scrape them off. One of the reasons I got into Warmachine years ago was because at the time their range was still 100% metal. I don't actually own any of their plastics yet, though I have to say, from a hit-in-my-wallet standpoint, I'm kinda looking forward to plastic Man o' War units.
QuietiManes
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Sigh...read what I wrote again. My point, to save you the trouble, was that you pay more because you are getting more, there's a whole system and community and support structure in place that is NOT in place for many models. And if you think all the work that goes into creating, balancing (as balanced as they make them) and maintaining the rule sets and artwork and coloured photos etc is covered by the cost of the big rulebook and the codex/army book, you need to think on that a bit more. That profit loss is covered by increasing the price for the models that use the rules.
It's really easy to twist someone's words around when you intentionally disregard most of what they say...
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You don't "pay more because you are getting more".
You pay more to fund GW's flailing retail empire.
You pay more to fund GW's flailing retail empire.
QuietiManes
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Heh, with that, I can not argue.
This is why business suits make me cry.
yxalitis
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Aren't Privateer Press Hordes minis still metal, and THEY have rules with "Colour pictures" too...gee, how Do they do it???
Minis producers like Reaper also have support structures in place, they too create catalogues, run websites, answer support questions...
You need to pull your head out of GW's backside, and see the world the way it really is: they are profiteering massively off the backs of vastly over-priced plastic minis.
The fact that you can't see that, and rush to defend them is precisely WHY they get away with it.
QuietiManes
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Seriously? I wasn't defending anyone from the secure shelter of my backside, simply suggesting there may be MORE to the dispute. Reaper and PP do not have anywhere near the same "support structures etc" because their fan base and product line and global coverage is no where near as large. Size does matter. The ONLY reason any company gets away with anything is because their customers continue to buy from them. Period. I stopped buying GW and PP products a few years ago, how about you? Yeah...
Having seen Privateers Press's "Plastic" I'd say it's closer to Resin like material GW's "finecast" is produced in. (but looks better quality)
...............Collectors generally want complete sets of things so will often have much larger potential armies than gamers. Oi don't go speaking for my OCD thank you very much.
Painters might not have the same quirks as gamers and probably wont buy things like assault squads and other cannon fodder but will likely buy 'character' figures of whatever genre and these are generally much more expensive. Guilty
I've never played a game in my life, but have several 'full armies'. I'd need a van if I wanted to field my full Blood Angel or Ork minis and I doubt I'd find many gamers who be able to match what I put on the table. They'd also have to explain the rules to me
Steve; I'd rather not waste perfectly good time that we could spend discussing and sampling the quality of alcoholic beverages, studying the formation of clouds or even debating the relative merits of Jung versus Freud.
Having played 40K for the best part of 2 decades all I can say is I'm glad I changed to SOTR.
yxalitis
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I have never bought a GW mini, even back when they had a few scant metal offerings, they were stupidly expensive.
Actually, I quite like the Hordes minis PP produces, I have quite a few, I suppose I could form an army..if someone didn't mind that they were all from different factions? (Is that the right word?).
Yes, I take the quality of the mini as my only basis for purchase, PP minis are very nice, better even the Reaper.
uglybug
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SOTR? Is that scotch on the rocks? I could see how 20 years of price increases and other stuff from GW would make you feel that way.
And if I may one last plug, please check out Malifaux. After 2 or 3 quick plays you get a good feel for the game. Yet so many variables between all the different crews makes it a fun game that's hard to master.
And if I may one last plug, please check out Malifaux. After 2 or 3 quick plays you get a good feel for the game. Yet so many variables between all the different crews makes it a fun game that's hard to master.
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Mr.S.Marbo
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Yeah finally a game I can play where it is possible for me to paint up a whole "army"! I have never achieved this ever. But now I can have a game with 5 models, everything I can put on the table can be painted to my highest standard! The game seems quite cool too, although I have only had a demo and am still reading the rules.
yxalitis
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Oh, I might try a warjack after all, just one to see.
Thanks!
Just my 2c:
I have been a PP and Warmachine fan for several years now and really rate their stuff. I agree with Mike and would definitely say that their models are resin and not plastic. One of the first things I bought years ago was the metal Khador starter set. A couple of months back I bought the same item in resin, just out of curiosity, and purely IMO there is no comparison. Yes, it is resin, but they have been designed poorly and flash lines run through areas with the greatest detail making them difficult, if not impossible to clean up proprerly.
I will be buying more Warmachine minis, but they'll all be white metal.
I have been a PP and Warmachine fan for several years now and really rate their stuff. I agree with Mike and would definitely say that their models are resin and not plastic. One of the first things I bought years ago was the metal Khador starter set. A couple of months back I bought the same item in resin, just out of curiosity, and purely IMO there is no comparison. Yes, it is resin, but they have been designed poorly and flash lines run through areas with the greatest detail making them difficult, if not impossible to clean up proprerly.
I will be buying more Warmachine minis, but they'll all be white metal.
