darthfoley
Active member
Opti-visor (or whatever brand name it might happen to be)...a magnifying visor used by many painters...
And by the Way...
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Opti-visor (or whatever brand name it might happen to be)...a magnifying visor used by many painters...
darthfoley
Active member
Oooo, we\'re treading dangerously close to my favorite sort of topic...government bashing...keep going!
darthfoley
Active member
OH! I\'m sorry. I didn\'t read the \'subtle humor\' in your post.
I\'ll recuse myself from trying to be helpful in the future :innocent:
I\'ll recuse myself from trying to be helpful in the future :innocent:
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MaestroOfMayhem
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If your smoking at work it is bad, because your co-workers don\'t have a choice to get away from your, but at home or in your car or any other place would seem fine to me. I try to avoid smokers as much as I can, they smell.
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MaestroOfMayhem
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Are your seriously telling me I should have read this whole post to the end before I posted, and should have know that it was off track already. Because if you were you should be very disapointed.
Nailpainter2003
New member
Blimey! I have avoided this thread like the plague, but enough is enough already! :flame:
I do not smell and neither does my home!! I\'ve been married twice, to Non-smokers and raised three children that were asthmatic and allergic to smoke. I was, and am considerate enough not to smoke around family, friends and co-workers. Never has anyone waged a complaint about the one habit I cannot break....even after two heart attacks. We have been banished, segregated and made to feel as though we have leprosy! Non-smokers who think they have the right to say things like, \" You smell,\" or \"That\'s a nasty habit,\" are simply being rude and tactless beyond words; but, it\'s no different when people are referred to as fat, gross or anorexic....it\'s entirely unacceptable behavior.
Now, I\'m going to have a night-cap, a smoke and continue with my sculpting!
The end,
Faye :moon:
I do not smell and neither does my home!! I\'ve been married twice, to Non-smokers and raised three children that were asthmatic and allergic to smoke. I was, and am considerate enough not to smoke around family, friends and co-workers. Never has anyone waged a complaint about the one habit I cannot break....even after two heart attacks. We have been banished, segregated and made to feel as though we have leprosy! Non-smokers who think they have the right to say things like, \" You smell,\" or \"That\'s a nasty habit,\" are simply being rude and tactless beyond words; but, it\'s no different when people are referred to as fat, gross or anorexic....it\'s entirely unacceptable behavior.
Now, I\'m going to have a night-cap, a smoke and continue with my sculpting!
The end,
Faye :moon:
darthfoley
Active member
What a cute little bum ya got there, Faye....
Nailpainter2003
New member
Oh, sorry there, darth....I didn\'t think anyone was watching!
But every now and then ya just gotta show \'em who\'s boss....and put your best asset forward. I\'m through with my \'brief\' little rant.
But every now and then ya just gotta show \'em who\'s boss....and put your best asset forward. I\'m through with my \'brief\' little rant.
vincegamer
Active member
I have agreed from the beginning that accosting strangers is rude and unacceptable behavior. I am sorry to hear that you have been unable to quit your habbit even after your children have suffered so much from it.
darthfoley
Active member
Vince, she clearly stated that she didn\'t smoke around her family...
Let\'s all get along, here...
Let\'s all get along, here...
*steps on to Soapbox*
I have tried very hard to stay away from this topic as it is an issue I wrestle with every day. I am a smoker who cannot quit and yet is suffering dibilatating helath issues because of it. I hate to sound like a hippocrit but sometimes you just gotta take the bull by the horns and tell your own story... Let the chips fall where they may.
Ready??
Here we go
I started smoking when I was 11 years old. That was in 1977.
Never did I think that the Tobacco companies were pulling the wool over my eyes. I went to school and they told me about smoking. They even had a dummy that smoked so you could see all the tar that accumullated in his \"lungs\".
And I have never smoked a pack of cigarettes that did not tell me that the Surgeon General had determined that it causes lung cancer.
I was a pack a day smoker for every day since then.
I told myself when cigarrettes got to .75 U.S. cents I would quit. Then it was a Dollar.. 1.50 etc. Never was I able to break my habit, and, quite truthfully, never wanted to.
I watched my grandmother die of emphazema.. that did not stop me. I watched both my grandfathers die of cancer.. that also did not stop me.
Fast forward to August of 2002.
As I sat down to, interestingly enough, look through CMON, I felt a twinge in my chest. nothing big at the time, I had had them before. But as the day went on the twinge became a sharp pain. I found I could not catch my breath for the life of me.
I told my wife that I needed to go to the hospital. I thought I was having a heart attack. This was distressing to her as I am one of those people who avoid doctors like the plague. She knew something was wrong.
My EKG, while looking fairly normal did show some anomolies so they kept me overnight. The pain would subside if I layed down but if I stood up I thought my chest would explode.
The next day the doctor came in with my x-rays. I did not have a heart attack. What happened was that my lungs had taken so much damage that I had a spontaneous Pnumo-thorax.. A small fault in my lung had exploded and air was rushing from my lung into my chest cavity. As there is not enough room in there for both air and lung tissue, the lung had started to collapse in upon itself I had lost 50% of my lung capacity in less than 24 hours. If the lung did not correct itself and I lost anymore capacity they would have to put a tube into my lung and inflate it. I have heard that this is very painful. (Luckily this did not happen)
I also found out that it is not uncommon in smokers. It is even more common in tall, thin smoking men such as myself. Many times it happens and people dont even know it has happened. They will pass it off as gas or a cramp of some kind.
Sometimes it is just a small hole and it fixes itself. Other times a doctors intervention is required.
I decided than that I would quit smoking.
In Ocober of 2002 I had what I thought would be my last cigarette. Even though I craved a cigarette almost every day I held fast for an entire year.
Fast forward again to Ocober 2003. I went to Las Vegas on buisness. I thought I would go ahead and buy a pack and quit again once I left.
Never have I done something so stupid.
Even though the doctor has told me that if I dont quit I will be in the hospital again with a collapsed lung ( 100% chance if I dont quit of having another severe Pnumo-thorax; 50% if I quit) and even though it hurts my wife every time she thinks of me in the hospital with a tube hanging out of my chest, I still keep smoking. I have not been able to quit since then. I suppose it will take another trip to the hospital for me to get back into the act of quitting as I should. I am trying to quit but I seriously love to smoke.
As much as I hate the militant non-smoker, I must tell you that if you havent started, DONT. If you have started, try to quit.
Dont be like me and have to learn the hard way that this stuff is poison.
Let me be the idiot who cant learn!
*steps off soapbox*
I have tried very hard to stay away from this topic as it is an issue I wrestle with every day. I am a smoker who cannot quit and yet is suffering dibilatating helath issues because of it. I hate to sound like a hippocrit but sometimes you just gotta take the bull by the horns and tell your own story... Let the chips fall where they may.
Ready??
Here we go
I started smoking when I was 11 years old. That was in 1977.
Never did I think that the Tobacco companies were pulling the wool over my eyes. I went to school and they told me about smoking. They even had a dummy that smoked so you could see all the tar that accumullated in his \"lungs\".
And I have never smoked a pack of cigarettes that did not tell me that the Surgeon General had determined that it causes lung cancer.
I was a pack a day smoker for every day since then.
I told myself when cigarrettes got to .75 U.S. cents I would quit. Then it was a Dollar.. 1.50 etc. Never was I able to break my habit, and, quite truthfully, never wanted to.
I watched my grandmother die of emphazema.. that did not stop me. I watched both my grandfathers die of cancer.. that also did not stop me.
Fast forward to August of 2002.
As I sat down to, interestingly enough, look through CMON, I felt a twinge in my chest. nothing big at the time, I had had them before. But as the day went on the twinge became a sharp pain. I found I could not catch my breath for the life of me.
I told my wife that I needed to go to the hospital. I thought I was having a heart attack. This was distressing to her as I am one of those people who avoid doctors like the plague. She knew something was wrong.
My EKG, while looking fairly normal did show some anomolies so they kept me overnight. The pain would subside if I layed down but if I stood up I thought my chest would explode.
The next day the doctor came in with my x-rays. I did not have a heart attack. What happened was that my lungs had taken so much damage that I had a spontaneous Pnumo-thorax.. A small fault in my lung had exploded and air was rushing from my lung into my chest cavity. As there is not enough room in there for both air and lung tissue, the lung had started to collapse in upon itself I had lost 50% of my lung capacity in less than 24 hours. If the lung did not correct itself and I lost anymore capacity they would have to put a tube into my lung and inflate it. I have heard that this is very painful. (Luckily this did not happen)
I also found out that it is not uncommon in smokers. It is even more common in tall, thin smoking men such as myself. Many times it happens and people dont even know it has happened. They will pass it off as gas or a cramp of some kind.
Sometimes it is just a small hole and it fixes itself. Other times a doctors intervention is required.
I decided than that I would quit smoking.
In Ocober of 2002 I had what I thought would be my last cigarette. Even though I craved a cigarette almost every day I held fast for an entire year.
Fast forward again to Ocober 2003. I went to Las Vegas on buisness. I thought I would go ahead and buy a pack and quit again once I left.
Never have I done something so stupid.
Even though the doctor has told me that if I dont quit I will be in the hospital again with a collapsed lung ( 100% chance if I dont quit of having another severe Pnumo-thorax; 50% if I quit) and even though it hurts my wife every time she thinks of me in the hospital with a tube hanging out of my chest, I still keep smoking. I have not been able to quit since then. I suppose it will take another trip to the hospital for me to get back into the act of quitting as I should. I am trying to quit but I seriously love to smoke.
As much as I hate the militant non-smoker, I must tell you that if you havent started, DONT. If you have started, try to quit.
Dont be like me and have to learn the hard way that this stuff is poison.
Let me be the idiot who cant learn!
*steps off soapbox*
Nailpainter2003
New member
vincegamer: I will not dignify your statement with a comment of any kind.
darthfoley: Thank you, for your ability to read, comprehend and defend!
Lurch: My heart goes out to you along with my prayers. I know your pain and your struggle.
darthfoley: Thank you, for your ability to read, comprehend and defend!
Lurch: My heart goes out to you along with my prayers. I know your pain and your struggle.
When I was a teacher....
I used to show a video to my class of a man who had lost both legs and his voice box through smoking. He was only able to breathe, and I use that term loosely because every breathe sounded like a death rattle, through a hole in his throat.
Guess what? Thats right He still stuck cigatettes into his \'hole\', bending his head forward to get a better grip, in order to smoke cigarettes.
It might not have worked for them...but it sure worked for me 15 years since my last fag and about 12 since my last craving.
I\'ve (possibly) developed scirrosis of the liver however:flip:
I used to show a video to my class of a man who had lost both legs and his voice box through smoking. He was only able to breathe, and I use that term loosely because every breathe sounded like a death rattle, through a hole in his throat.
Guess what? Thats right
He still stuck cigatettes into his \'hole\', bending his head forward to get a better grip, in order to smoke cigarettes. It might not have worked for them...but it sure worked for me
15 years since my last fag and about 12 since my last craving. I\'ve (possibly) developed scirrosis of the liver however
:flip:
I\'m not going to get on a soap box here:-
Lurch Good luck I hope that you have the courage to try to stop once again. If you don\'t, then I hope that your health stays ok.
Nailpainter Faye I hope that I\'m never one of those rude people who haven\'t got the courtesy to even be considerate to smokers, even if they can\'t stand the smell.
To all smokers who use this site, please be aware that I respect your right to smoke, even if I dislike the smell.
Like Lurch I just want to tell you about health issues, but this is not mine, this is my Mother.
She has smoked as long as I can remember (48 years at least). On the 20th of February this year she was taken into hospital with a stroke. We have now discovered that this was the 2nd stroke she\'s had, this one has casued greater Brain Damage and she now has Epilepsy. (To my generation Epilepsy is nothing, but to my mother\'s, the stigma of Epilepsy is still strong) In addition to the Stroke(s)/Epilepsy she now has a loss of some long term memory, is suffering from metal confusion and weakness in her left eye which has become light sensitive.
In a copy of the report from the specialist to her doctor, it clearly states that the Cerebrovascular disease has been caused by long term smoking, which has caused Hypertension affecting her Asthma. As you can see this is a viscous circle. I have spoken to her and my father and they now realise that they both have to stop smoking.
It\'s not the fact that my mother is now ill (permanently), or that her mental state will probably never recover, but that this is something she and I could have prevented, which is causing me the greatest guilt.
If you want to quit then please do so, if you want to continue then I hope your health never suffers and your family never has the heartache of dealing with the effects.
Be Well.
Lurch Good luck I hope that you have the courage to try to stop once again. If you don\'t, then I hope that your health stays ok.
Nailpainter Faye I hope that I\'m never one of those rude people who haven\'t got the courtesy to even be considerate to smokers, even if they can\'t stand the smell.
To all smokers who use this site, please be aware that I respect your right to smoke, even if I dislike the smell.
Like Lurch I just want to tell you about health issues, but this is not mine, this is my Mother.
She has smoked as long as I can remember (48 years at least). On the 20th of February this year she was taken into hospital with a stroke. We have now discovered that this was the 2nd stroke she\'s had, this one has casued greater Brain Damage and she now has Epilepsy. (To my generation Epilepsy is nothing, but to my mother\'s, the stigma of Epilepsy is still strong) In addition to the Stroke(s)/Epilepsy she now has a loss of some long term memory, is suffering from metal confusion and weakness in her left eye which has become light sensitive.
In a copy of the report from the specialist to her doctor, it clearly states that the Cerebrovascular disease has been caused by long term smoking, which has caused Hypertension affecting her Asthma. As you can see this is a viscous circle. I have spoken to her and my father and they now realise that they both have to stop smoking.
It\'s not the fact that my mother is now ill (permanently), or that her mental state will probably never recover, but that this is something she and I could have prevented, which is causing me the greatest guilt.
If you want to quit then please do so, if you want to continue then I hope your health never suffers and your family never has the heartache of dealing with the effects.
Be Well.
Nailpainter2003
New member
Dragonsreach: (please forgive the impersonal address, as I do not know your name), but your message has made me cry. I hear your words....They are the plight and fears of my sons and daughter.
Although, I never smoked while pregnant, nor in their presence during the many years it took to raise them, that didn\'t stop their fears of losing me. And, trust me, their objections are not as kindly worded as your last post.
Given the risks and insurmountable guilt that ensues, one would think that\'s all it would take to quit. Well, I have tried countless times and I can only compare the symptoms of withdrawal to sheer, slow torture.
I always use the feeble excuse that longevity is not our family\'s strong suit....It seems the prominant, congenital heart defect doesn\'t allow us life beyond the age of fifty. So, with the loss of our father and two brothers, we simply try to cram as much living into whatever time we\'re allotted.
Maybe I will be the one to break the family curse on both accounts....be the first to successfully quit smoking AND grow to old age, gracefully? ??? It might just be worth a shot after all! I\'ll have to say my prayers really loud and hard for this one!.... Lurch, are ya with me??
Although, I never smoked while pregnant, nor in their presence during the many years it took to raise them, that didn\'t stop their fears of losing me. And, trust me, their objections are not as kindly worded as your last post.
Given the risks and insurmountable guilt that ensues, one would think that\'s all it would take to quit. Well, I have tried countless times and I can only compare the symptoms of withdrawal to sheer, slow torture.
I always use the feeble excuse that longevity is not our family\'s strong suit....It seems the prominant, congenital heart defect doesn\'t allow us life beyond the age of fifty. So, with the loss of our father and two brothers, we simply try to cram as much living into whatever time we\'re allotted.
Maybe I will be the one to break the family curse on both accounts....be the first to successfully quit smoking AND grow to old age, gracefully? ??? It might just be worth a shot after all! I\'ll have to say my prayers really loud and hard for this one!.... Lurch, are ya with me??
