And this is why Christmas sucks.

[Ebonbuddha]

There is no call for what happened to this guy.

Poor Santa

 

[Dragonsreach]

Oh FFS get a grip!

Ho Ho Ho has been in use far longer than the american slang.

 

[squidders]

I can\'t wait until all this PC nonsense implodes... The only thing it\'s good for is building up internal rage. We no longer have the ability to express ourselves or speak the truth.

damnit, where\'s my soap box???

I do like that if it\'s \"art\" like crap music or any old film, you can say ho and bitches and pretty much anything you like.

I may soon legally Declare myself a living example of modern art with vulgarity as the theme.

 

[farseerlum]

ah it\'s a myers store! that makes me feel much better about always knocking over something while i\'m walking though it to the rest of the mall.

 

[squig hunter]

Jesus Christ, will the fanatical PCness ever end?

Squig

 

[airhead]

It amazes me that the PC crowd is all for saying anything and doing anything in a movie, but you are not even allowed to say anything that might possibly offend anyone in real life. You cannot have it both ways.

But I was also disappointed that Australia gave up their gun rights as well. Slowly turning into sheeple.

 

[Avelorn]

This is such a wierd phenomena. I guess it\'s fear about getting sued or such??? Have you ever actually met a person arguing that Santa can\'t say \"ho ho ho\"?

@Airhead: Is sheeple the term you use for people of countries with restrictive gun-laws?

 

[Onis Lair]

This is just sad. And of course Westaff is claiming that it wasn\'t his use of Ho ho ho and singing that caused him to be fired. Never mind he had the \"right attitude\" for 3 years and only now after singing and saying ho ho ho that his \"attitude\" is wrong.

 

[airhead]

Originally posted by Avelorn
...@Airhead: Is sheeple the term you use for people of countries with restrictive gun-laws?

Not really, but they tend to work out that way.

Sheeple are people that have given up their rights and responsiblities to the government. They are no longer responsible citizens, but sheep. Gun rights, speech rights, worship rights are all part of that picture. The more the people rely on the government for their happiness and welfare, the more they become sheep.

 

[JesterzUSMC]

America is full of sheeple.
And the word \"ho\" as \"american slang\" in incorrect, it\'s from \"urban\" (c)rap \"music\".

Which would put it in \"Ebonics\". Which we all know isn\'t a language, any more than pig-latin is a real language. Yes you can use it to communicate, but really why?

As far as PC goes, if you never get offended, how will you cope when you accidentally find something offensive?

PC is BS for the P.T. Barnum rule:
You can\'t please all of the sheeple all of the time!!
I am going to buy land on the moon, and no stupid people will be allowed to breathe my air.

 

[rosac]

Human rights, political correctness, over blown health and safety laws (What do you mean i can only go flying three times a year! Im an cadet goddammit) Any way, this is just another ephisode in a battle of overblown laws, people looking for things to sue and words that have more recent meanings, despite having been used for longer than people can remember, and other things mixed in. When will it ever end!

 

[Avelorn]

@Airhead:

We are all socialised into the society, there are just different agendas that we buy. Different paths we take.

Are you willing of giving up some freedom and rights for security? Say harsher methods of interrogation and more privacy-intruding monitoring systems? Alleged to prevent terrorism.

Are you willing to give up some gun-rights to keep down the level of guns on the street etc. Alleged to prevent lethal violence.

@JesterzUSMC: Of course it\'s american slang, as it\'s a slang made by americans just as yourself. How do you think languages evolve, eh? Any means of communications with set rules is a language. What words we use for different people or phenomenas vary over time and context and thus the language changes. The language define the dictionary not vice versa...

 

[NINJAWIZARD]

And this, my friends, is just one of the many many reasons I hate human\'s. Calling me a misanthrope is somewhat of an understatement.

What\'s next? Being told you have to say \"Hello\" instead of \"Hi\" because \"Hi\" is too close to another american slang word that could be offensive to women (OR MEN), and it\'s the lazy way of greeting? Will people ever stop trying to dictate how others speak, act, or live their lives? Sadly, I think not.

I swear, if I had super powers, I\'d be a villain.

 

[Avelorn]

@Ninjawizard: This is a media fuzz. I doubt the stupitidy prevail, but on the other hand I\'m not a misanthrope. And no, sorry, we won\'t stop dictating how you should act think and do. We humans get nervous by by other that doesn\'t do what we expect them to. And not to mention there are a lot of people making money out of trying to change us in different ways.

What villain would you be?

 

[Sand Rat]

Heres the problem Avelorn - the word \"Might\" - anyone can look anywhere and find a situation that might offend them - personally I\'m offended by PC and the now rampant societal fear of making any statement that might offend.

To quote Foul ol Ron - \"Buggerit!\"

Things that offend cause us to think -

 

[NINJAWIZARD]

Sylar. Only more proactive.

He only goes after other \"heroes\" whereas I\'d target the people that spill hot coffee on themselves, and sue the company that sold it to them.

 

[Avelorn]

@Steelcult: True, I\'m not arguing against that. But on the other hand what would total freedom of speach lead to? Say what would the Phelps do? The line to be drawn is difficult and should perhaps be guided by some kind of common sense (hehe) and not by how much money you can get by suing? I think that is the real issue here. I say 99.9% of people agree that this is stupid. But still that .1% might try to get some money from their offence?

@ninjawizard: Ah. but if your Sylar what kind of info/talent do you want from their brains? lol

 

[fieldarchy]

I just don\'t understand the reasoning behind this. I heard about the nixing of ho ho ho a few weeks ago and it was much debate on the Reaper forums. It\'s a pretty interesting convo if you want to check it out.

Anyway, how is a big fat guy in a bright red suit with a bushy beard saying HO HO HO offensive to women? And the kids wouldn\'t know what it means other than \"Hey mommy! Santa\'s here! I can hear him . . . he\'s saying \'ho ho ho\'\"

To quote John Stossel, \"Give me a break!\"

 

[Sand Rat]

Originally posted by Avelorn
@Steelcult: True, I\'m not arguing against that. But on the other hand what would total freedom of speach lead to? Say what would the Phelps do? The line to be drawn is difficult and should perhaps be guided by some kind of common sense (hehe) and not by how much money you can get by suing? I think that is the real issue here. I say 99.9% of people agree that this is stupid. But still that .1% might try to get some money from their offence?

@ninjawizard: Ah. but if your Sylar what kind of info/talent do you want from their brains? lol

Actually I kind of like a model where you are actually able to say what you want but are responsible for your actions - and I don\'t remember reading anywhere that I have any rights beyond Life, Liberty, and Property - cause lets face it sometimes my exercise of these rights will offend you.

 

[airhead]

Originally posted by Avelorn
@Airhead:
Are you willing of giving up some freedom and rights for security?

No. Never surrender a right. As soon as you do, it will never come back.

Say harsher methods of interrogation and more privacy-intruding monitoring systems? Alleged to prevent terrorism.

my opionion of the prisoners in Gitmo are that they should be treated according to the Geneva Convention. Ask me off-line and I will tell you my full opinion there.

Are you willing to give up some gun-rights to keep down the level of guns on the street etc. Alleged to prevent lethal violence.

No. Never surrender a right. As soon as you do, it will never come back. Gun owners should be held accountable for the security of their weapons, but that does not prevent robbery.

Bottom line: My opinion matters as much as anyone else\'s. We all get one vote.