Bin Laden has apparently been killed by US Special Forces.

supervike

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EDIT: @Vike: what forum? :)


http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?act=idx

There is some severe lunacy on that sight, so be warned. Like I say, I first got there looking at stuff on conspiracies, but have moved onto discussing politics, religious believe, bigfoot, aliens, and other oddities. There are good things there, but you do have to wade through alot of crap.

I can't believe i have over 3,000 posts there....
 

Farin

New member
ok, before i move on (wiccanpony got a point, at some point we have to do it) here is something i just have to give this reply in regard to conspiracy theories - don´t worry it´s reasonable :

Imagine you are in charge of this operation and you get the news that OBL wa shot. His body needs to be buried and you have to do it according to Islamic customs as not to create outrage for obvious reason. You have two options.

Number 1: You bury him on land. This way no conspiracy nut can claim it never happened ,but you might also create a place were radicals can worship him as martyr, even use it for propaganda.
Number 2: bury him on sea. No site for fanatics to pilgrimage to, but every conspiracy site on the web will explode with theories.


it´s simply a cost-benefit analysis and i know which option i´d pick.

btw, i say this as someone who never served in the millitary, and i´m not so arrogant as to assume i know what the people involved were thinking. I´m just saying that to me it appears that they choose the lesser of two evil.
 

mud duck

New member
The whole thing just goes to prove that given enough time, one can and will find the needle in the haystack.
@ Faran you forgot "Bury him at sea, so he can not be raised into the ranks of the undead...."

Oh and the reason I think for just sending in the Seal team 6. This is their specialty. Fast in, cap the bad guys, and rescue the hostages. Too add more people that haven't train with the teams is going to slow the raid down, which will get more people killed and increase the chances of the mission failure. Plus, think of the political troubles if one of the Governments involved didn't agree with the mission or it's goals. Could take weeks to agree on one thing.
 

skeeve

Member
. We have DNA, but I'm sure most of us cannot read DNA findings, so we wouldn't know the difference between a Tree Frog and Bin Laden's, l

I guess what bothers me is that there really isn't any evidence that this has happened. Why would you get rid of the body? The only piece of evidence that you need to prove such an event happened so soon after it was reported. I know its a conspiracy and we're not to know the truth.

This is absolutely precious. There are millions of stars out there but since I (in New York) cannot see them at all I have no evidence they exist. There are as many tiny organisms on the palm of my hand but since I don't see them there are no evidence that they exist

The fact that YOU "wouldn't know the difference between a Tree Frog and Bin Laden's" DNAs is your very specific problem that am not particularly interested in . Some people cannot even read, should I be bothered what they can and cannot do? I see about a half a dozen reasons why I would get rid of the body as soon as I got positive id. Since most conspiralogists are not know for logic reasoning listing them wouldn't matter, would it.
 

Ickthorne

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Oh thank you Skeeve for coming to our rescue. I'm just a simpleton not trained in the field of DNA research so I'm going to need your expertize on telling me the difference between a Tree Frog Vs. Bin Laden's DNA, or your own for that matter. I think you have missed the overall point I was making, but at least your fine deductive reasoning skills are here to save the day. The point is is that most people wouldn't know the difference between those if you handed them the info. Just because a line may be typed in saying it is a match doesn't make it true if the document is false. Most people will accept it without question because they don't know any difference between those items. They aren't going to say hey wait a minute this isn't right, this is a tree frog's dna, or a fruit bat, or a monkey, or what ever you want it to be, they'll just say ok!

Personally I'm glad they got the son of a bitch. Its been a long time coming. I also find it hilarious that we managed to "screw up" is "burial" following islamic customes. It isn't an islamic custom to give burials at sea. And a Martyr is never washed before hand. Not that I see that Bastard as a martyr.
 

skeeve

Member
The point is is that most people wouldn't know the difference between those if you handed them the info. Just because a line may be typed in saying it is a match doesn't make it true if the document is false. Most people will accept it without question because they don't know any difference between those items.

You are missing my point as well. With this logic we can go rather far: a photograph and a videotape could be doctored. The body itself in fact could be "doctored" as well, and in any case very few people will ever see it. I Essentially, nothing can ever be "proven". Even DNA testing has 1-0.1% of error. There facts and evidence that any given person will not be able evaluate simply because the knowledge to do this are way too specific. This is why any big criminal investigation is done by a team.
 
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Torn blue sky

New member
Now i'm no expert, but given that Skeeve here knows russian so well, and the fact he's so logical, I think "Skeeve" is actually a bot running through google!

I smell a CmON conspiracy...How many of you are bots here...
 
As horrible as this sounds, my first strange thought was that he has
been dead for months in a freezer and they waited for the right time.

Royal Wedding
Pope John Paul made a saint
Bin Laden Dead
Jessica Biel and Salma Hayek waiting for me in my bedroom

Do you see what I mean ?
 

TrystanGST

New member
I'm not a robot. I just play one on T.V. And at work. And at conventions. And at the airport. And..erm...wait a tic...
 

roninjr

New member
Kill OBL vs Royal Wedding?

I think the U.S. just topped the Royal Wedding for press time... it could happen. beep, beep, tic, toc, beep...
 

COG

New member
beep boop
i mean isnt farins avatar a dalek? *hopes everyone is looking at farin*
tbh im glad hes reported as dead. the only thing i didnt like and this an american problem is new york times reported that the seals got intel to tell them were the next in command was...wtf why just ruin the surprise for us.. and another paper reported that OBL died from a head wound ...that doesnt sound like a oops marvin shot himself in the face. (movie reference)
anyways above all good luck and be safe if anyones travelling
 

cassar

BALLSCRATCHER
apparently theres photos/video of his death floating about on the interweb, dont open as its virused to the hilt.
 
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