Infidel Castro
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...that we can\'t have babies.
I was listening to BBC Radio 5 yesterday or possibly the day before and there was a news item on the use of artificial insemination (or whatever the cleaner, sharper moniker for it is these days). It turns out that if a person is too fat or too thin then they are not eligible for the service of A.Ins from the NHS unless they can show a dedication to improving their physical condition for carrying a child and subsequently looking after the poor thing. This is irregardless of any relationship the person might be in, but i\'ll come to that in a mo.
Single mothers can apply for the service and will be accepted if deemed fit. I can see the point, but I\'m still undecided.
However - and this boggles my mind - the NHS will now allow lesbian couples the treatment and give them the means to have bables through A.Ins absolutely free. On the face of it it\'s nice to see the UK at least becoming more progressive, but under the surface the whole thing falls apart.
If a fella in a relationship with a lady is infertile and the couple want a child and have the devotion and energy to do so, I can see the A.Ins as a good thing. There are babies popping out everywhere and in the care of some right arseholes, but a well thought out bit of fertility treatment/A.Ins with the right folk is surely a decent thing. But who should pay?
To get back to the radio broadcast, the BBC interviewed a lesbian who is pushing for the treatment as she and her lady are ready for a child but, in her own words, says we aren\'t able to have babies, but that\'s not our fault....


No shit, Sherlock!
Of course you can\'t have babies in a lesbian relationship! Neither would you in gay relationship between men! I was utterly miffed when I heard her comments and I can\'t help but feel the NHS is making a huge cock-up here. My National Insurance is going to be used - in however small a part - to allow same-sex couples the chance for kids! Surely such a service should be private and funded by the wannabe parents? I\'ve no issue with the matter morally IF the folk do it through their own pockets, but through our own money? I may even extend that to other folk as well, male-female, single mother or whatever in the larger sense of it all, as it\'s not the state\'s fault or the N.I. paying folk\'s fault they can\'t have kids or won\'t enter a biological relationship to have one.
I don\'t know what else to say
Edit: Actually I do know what to say - humans are intrinsically selfish and think everybody owes them lol
I think there should be certain levels of help through the NHS and my money would be taken from me at least with me being happy if the system was right. By that I mean a proper vetting service and not faddish nonsense.
And I changed a little part of my text from the initial post as I thought about the issue on the toilet just now
I was listening to BBC Radio 5 yesterday or possibly the day before and there was a news item on the use of artificial insemination (or whatever the cleaner, sharper moniker for it is these days). It turns out that if a person is too fat or too thin then they are not eligible for the service of A.Ins from the NHS unless they can show a dedication to improving their physical condition for carrying a child and subsequently looking after the poor thing. This is irregardless of any relationship the person might be in, but i\'ll come to that in a mo.
Single mothers can apply for the service and will be accepted if deemed fit. I can see the point, but I\'m still undecided.
However - and this boggles my mind - the NHS will now allow lesbian couples the treatment and give them the means to have bables through A.Ins absolutely free. On the face of it it\'s nice to see the UK at least becoming more progressive, but under the surface the whole thing falls apart.
If a fella in a relationship with a lady is infertile and the couple want a child and have the devotion and energy to do so, I can see the A.Ins as a good thing. There are babies popping out everywhere and in the care of some right arseholes, but a well thought out bit of fertility treatment/A.Ins with the right folk is surely a decent thing. But who should pay?
To get back to the radio broadcast, the BBC interviewed a lesbian who is pushing for the treatment as she and her lady are ready for a child but, in her own words, says we aren\'t able to have babies, but that\'s not our fault....
No shit, Sherlock!
Of course you can\'t have babies in a lesbian relationship! Neither would you in gay relationship between men! I was utterly miffed when I heard her comments and I can\'t help but feel the NHS is making a huge cock-up here. My National Insurance is going to be used - in however small a part - to allow same-sex couples the chance for kids! Surely such a service should be private and funded by the wannabe parents? I\'ve no issue with the matter morally IF the folk do it through their own pockets, but through our own money? I may even extend that to other folk as well, male-female, single mother or whatever in the larger sense of it all, as it\'s not the state\'s fault or the N.I. paying folk\'s fault they can\'t have kids or won\'t enter a biological relationship to have one.
I don\'t know what else to say
Edit: Actually I do know what to say - humans are intrinsically selfish and think everybody owes them lol
I think there should be certain levels of help through the NHS and my money would be taken from me at least with me being happy if the system was right. By that I mean a proper vetting service and not faddish nonsense.
And I changed a little part of my text from the initial post as I thought about the issue on the toilet just now