Kingdom Death Man Hunter WIP

[ScottRadom]

Okay, so I want as much fierce crits as I can get. I am trying for this to be my best ever work, so please help!
Anyway, about the mini. Superb! Cast was clean, smooth, just a joy. One small gripe was the noose at the end of the arm was at an odd angle, and defo NOT thick enough to be repositioned easily. I cut it off, drilled a hole at an angle and am happy with how it turned out.
Anyway, I worked on the skin. I am not doing much with the face as I want it to be all shadowy and mysterious, but I think I should work on the arm. It is a challenge blending that arm as the surface is broken up by all the veins. Fun stuff. Anyway, here's where I am at...

I based the flesh with Tallarn flesh, then shaded it in about 4 or five steps adding black red to the mix up to pure black red in a few places. I brought the base coat back in and then added highlights in about 4 or 5 steps mixing in P3 menoth white base. There's some pure menoth white around the chets and ab's as well. Then I tried to bring some nuances and subtleties into the flesh. I use those terms cause that's what it said in the miniature mentor video I watched. Sounds pretty goofy to me. Anyway, I added some glazes of Green, Blue, and red pretty sparingly around the top of the arm and all across the torso. I wanted this guy to look more burn victim than anything so I had decided before I started to add more purple and ogryn flesh as the final steps. I added that in about 3 glazes of each. Pretty thin though, maybe 5:1 for all the glazes. I used the GW washes for all of that.
So pretty happy so far. I think I am going to add some Black Brown shadows under the hat area just to REALLY make sure it look shadowy and mysterious. The long post about what I was doing is so that I can remember!
Thanks for looking, I need all the help I can get!

 

[BPI]

Hi Scott, I'll have a go

I like the work so far but the photo/my monitor is showing me the reds without any of the blue/purple, I think there's room to go stronger with them. Perhaps that's what you could use under the stretched bits of skin down the centre opf his chest, something to try & suggest that it's thin skin under tension?

I think the veins/scabby bits need their colour on now, so that the final glazes over the whole area work as the top layer of skin. Putting them in any later they may be too strong & look more like warpaint or some kind of freaky parasitic infection.

I'd like to see the flesh colour worked down the sides of the fingers more, especially the outside edge of the gallows one. Please.

It looks very nice & smooth for so many stages. Good work there, my work's very bumpy at the moment as I get my consistencies wrong.

OSL for the eyes?

I hope there's a useful thought in there! Cheers, B.

 

[Prophecy07]

Holy crap, that sculpt is incredible. I don't know how to do it, but I've seen people "normalize" color levels in pictures. That might help with the color loss that BPI mentioned.

 

[ScottRadom]

Good points BPI! I think you're right about the color. Should try a little more purple. As for the veins and stuff, I am at a loss. I was thinking about just bringing them up with some of the base tone, rather than highlight them too strong. Any other idears?

Prohecy, the Kingdom Death stuff is highly sought after, and usually sells out. I would check them out and sign up for their newsletter, if you like the model. It's a cool little company and I like supporting them.

 

[BPI]

Hi Scott. I think the approach for the veins is to glaze them up in a couple of coats of blue/purple to represent the unoxygenated blood, take care not to run on to the flesh around it, then run the fleshtone over them & the surrounding skin to tie together (I think heavily thinned flesh paint rather than ink/wash). Certainly a blue approach to sit against the redder skin.

That bicep looks really tight, paint it as flayed? Red stripey muscle with pulsing thick veins running over the surface but no skin colouring?

Recently burnt as in blackened? in which case a lava type approach? Reds underlaying in recesses with scabby black on top.

Burn scars? I'm no expert & have no desire to do a picture search but I'd have thought significantly paler (no red) than regular flesh areas due to lack of tanning. No hair, if you were thinking of putting any in. Browner colouring around the edges (yellower rather than red brown).

I think the white top highlight on the chest sits on the rest of the paint well. I wonder if you could use it, instead of simply representing light, to highlight the taught areas of skin. Glaze it back toward the main skin colour a little on the fleshier areas. I'm not sure.

I've just noticed that hand by his knee!?!

What colour for the claws of the big fingers?

Is there a cod piece or belt buckle to glue in? Or did the fire remove his dangly bits?

Cheers, B.

 

[ScottRadom]

Hah! Nope, no cod piece, model is as shown here fully assembled!

I like the idea for the veins, and I'll try a few glazes on the veins alone. I'll use my new Rosemary and co 2/0 (Thanks Rugne!) and give that a whirl on the arms.

I'll try working the highlight on the arms a little more.

I am not entirely sure, TBH where I really want the skin to go. I actually like the look of it more or less as is, but think I like the feeback abotu more colour. I am thinking I will go look at the Automaton article, but think it quite likely that I'll use more blue/green across the chest and blue/purple to the veins and maybe blue/ogryn flesh across the abs.

The thought of doing the skin as flayed and such I think is past my mind. I here you, I just don't know that I could pull it off. Maybe if this mini turns out OK I can have a little more confidence going crazy on another mini.

Really appreciate the input, I'll put a pic up and see how the vein affect works!

 

[Prophecy07]

@Scott

Just signed up for their newsletter. Very cool stuff! I'm rather dissapointed that the White Speaker is sold out, I would have liked to get my hands on one (and I don't have the money at the moment for a "Gift of Death")

 

[ScottRadom]

When people piss me off, they get the "Gift of Death" for free! Hiyah!

The White speaker is a super cool mini. As far as I know the plan for Kingdom Death is to get his first run mini's reproduced (I think in Metal) in a while. But I have them all, and the saviour has been ordered. They're done really, really well.

I would consider saving for that Gift of Death. The price for the mini's might seem steep, but this manhunter is big (check out the paint jars for a comparison in the background) and they're packaged in a unique way. Love the ole KD. Sounds like I am laying it on a little thick, but I like that the internet has made these smaller mini ranges viable and when I find a good one I like to sing about it!

 

[Prophecy07]

When people piss me off, they get the "Gift of Death" for free! Hiyah!

...

But seriously, I don't mind at all. I enjoy finding new ranges or the smaller companies, and I usually enjoy supporting them. CMON actually, has been a large factor in that. They have a number of smaller and interesting sculpts that they feature periodically.

Good stuff.

 

[freakinacage]

he looks nice scott but i'll be ballsed if i'm gonna make the effort to get into a web store that is password protected

 

[ScottRadom]

he looks nice scott but i'll be ballsed if i'm gonna make the effort to get into a web store that is password protected

Fair enough Tim, but the password protect is only for the first couple of days for people on the mailing list. Glad you like the paintjob so far!

 

[GreenOne]

So far so good Scott. That's a very interesting sculpt, looking forward to see what you make of him. Smooth work on the skin but still too monotone and red, you need to vary the tones in shades and highlights.
Edit: After properly reading, I see that you did the glazes thing; maybe too subtle tho
I think you should use all those veins to increase visual interest, instead of working around them.

 

[Emperors Soul]

Looks great I have two of each model that they have relist. but to much on my plate at this time to start paint.

 

[cleen X]

If I remember correctly from the rat ogre by miniature mentor they said its better to use reds and blues instead of just purple, different colors used together makes for a more interesting effect.. Also, green is great for shadows on the skin parts

Love what you have done with this so far! The blending is superb in my eyes!! A big improvement from the other stuff I have seen from you, the skin also has very good contrast.. More color added as everybody else already have said (and maybe you have done it as well!).. And often some subtle colors dont show up on camera, only in real life.

But great work so far :-D

 

[ScottRadom]

I don't even know if I can call this progress. I am not happy with my work here. I know I had to do something on the veins but I am not sold with what I've got here. I used some of the GW blue and a little green and tried to glaze over the veins till I had a lot of color, then glazed them back down with very dilute Tallarn flesh (The base tone) and I dunno....
I also tried adding a little bit of blue into the shadows around the edge of the torso and the inside of the arm with some dark prussian blue, and I dunno about that either. Then I added a little green across the chest and top abs, and glazed all the flesh with a little purple. Again, not sure about it. Eeek. Prob should have tried the red and green seperate as cleen X suggested.

But hey, the hat is done!

 

[GreenOne]

Cheer up dude, I think it's going the right way. As long as you keep them paints thin, you can rework again and again. The veins seem like they're on the right track, you could push it further on the big ones. Then glaze the whole thing with something that is not the base color (I'd go for a light green in this case.).
The skin is already more lively like that, maybe push the shading at some strategic points ( Ie Lower belly.) with something more brown than red. Mixing green in the deepest shadows would break of the red, and provide a cooler tone.

 

[Lyuun]

dude! what kinda model is this?! is there more like this?

 

[Tagamoga]

This kind of model is not exact my taste, but the skin and hat gorgeous!

Greetings, Taggi

 

[BPI]

Definitely steps forward rather than back there Scott :good: GreenOne's advice all sounds good to me for further flesh work. The hat looks good, it sets the face off nicely. It'll be pleasing to see the arm broken up with the bracelet painted in, chest framed by coat, etc. Everytime I look at your pic there's more detail jumping off the mini at me, so many areas that deserve attention rather than just being roughed over, really nice. Keep this one going & I don't see why you wouldn't achieve the aim of your best paintjob to date

Cheers, B.

PS Paint still looks lovely & smooth, nice technique :good:

 

[cleen X]

I think it looks better :-D A lot more color and interest in the skin now. I would maybe make the veins a little more skin colored on the top? Or maybe highlight them a little. Maybe you have and it dont show up on the pic, camera dont show everything!

Maybe add more interest on the veins/skin texture on the abs and the throat. There are a lot of interesting sculpting on there which you can show of, maybe not with to much highlight (because they are in shadow) but some different colors there than the rest of skin? Just some crazy ideas I am throwing around here

The pics you take though are top notch!! Some of the best pics I have seen you take and they are only wip with no background..

It might be the angle this pic is taken at but the face shows up a lot more this time, did you paint it a little? It is a very cool feature to have the bottom of the showing but the eyes in deep shadow..
Like it a lot :-D

The hat also look good Looks like old leather and the metal buckle is also very convincing, and shiny :-D