Personal Rant! - Verdict is in!

MPJ

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If you don\'t want to read a post of ranting and raving about something semi-personal then stop now, it may get boring but I need to get this off my chest. It has nothing to do with minis or CMoN, I\'m just clearing my head.

Backstory (will try to make it as short as possible):

April 13, 2005 I was driving one of my employees home in the afternoon (bad part of town) when my truck became surrounded by 8 persons who did not want to let me preceed (stopped to let them cross the street, they stopped in front, side, and behind and started taunting). In my less then smartest moment I got out to tell them to move when I promptly got jumped. Fought 8 of them, well with that many I didn\'t do all that much \'fighting\', during the course I was smashed in the ribs with a large boulder (bout 20lbs) breaking several, smashed over the head repeatidly with a club (hit so many times it was reduced to splinters), kicked, beaten, spit on, punched, etc... This went on for about 5 minutes me being knocked to the ground 3 times (near as I can tell I lost consciousness after the 3rd). Just before I went down for the 3rd time I realized I was fighting for my life (did I mention I\'m a bit slow?) and managed to grab a hammer out of the back of my truck but did not have enough left in me to make a good swing with it, missed and dropped it so I dove onto it to keep it from them.

During this there were some 20+ bystanders watching and doing nothing. My employee in the truck did nothing (not even dialing 911 on his cell phone) or help (he was sitting on a 36\" wrecking bar which sure would have been useful). At the end two men who had pulled up behind chased off the 8 punks.

Ambulance and police came but I refused the ambulance, not wanting to leave my truck and tools in that neighbourhood so I signed the release and drove myself to the hospital, made it there but collapsed in the hospital parking lot.

Anyway...

The past year and a half:

Recovery took a while, 2 months on the ribs before I could claim to be at about 90%, the better part of a year before I was pretty much back to 100%.

The police worked slowly and in the end made only one arrest of the \'ringleader\', the only one I could ID out of a lineup. None of the \'witnesses\' would give any information.

I was finally just subpoenad last night for a court date this coming Friday. The subpoena was written on August 14 but they couldn\'t be bothered to deliver it. The prosecutor\'s office is suposed to prep me for court by bringing me in and going over the information and such but can\'t be bothered so they are just going to call me Wednesday evening and do it over the phone (which the cop who delivered the subpoena says is rediculous).

I\'m also now told that I will be the only witness for the prosecution and I had better \'ham it up\' on the stand to have any hope of a conviction (which will likely be a joke sentence anyway). The proscution has no intent on going after the other seven involved in the attack.

Conclusions:

I have always been a pretty \'happy-go-lucky\' kinda guy who believed that most people are basically good and predominatly desire to help their fellow man. Sadly the older and more experienced I get I am starting to realize that most people are basically large walking piles of crap. It sickens me greatly that there was not one witness willing to come forward or to help out. And out of the many people there that day it took only two people who arrived at the very end to chase off eight (as I mentioned there were at least 20 standing around watching, many more who walked by or witnessed from their homes). My idiot employee who was in the truck refused to give any statement to the police other than it was my fault for getting out of the truck in the first place (that\'s sorta like saying the girl in the short skirt deserved to get raped for dressing that way).

Anyway, sorry for the ramblings. If you\'ve made it this far then you deserve my apologies as I\'m sure this wasn\'t easy to read or possibly even understand. I just got this off my chest as a sort of impromptu therepy session. I\'m not active on any other forums, nevermind one that might be more appropriate.

Truely, Michel P. Jeanrie

PS: Really sad part is, if I had it to do all over I most likely wouldn\'t change a thing except maybe come out swinging with the wrecking bar (hindsight). No one, even me, will really know why I got out of the truck that day but I sort of think I did it because I\'m sick of seeing all the violence out there espicaly towards the elderly and such and felt that at least by getting out and standing up for myself I was making a stand for me and others against this sort of thing.

PPS: If the same situation happened again I\'d probablly do the same thing and because I really wouldn\'t want to hurt anyone I wouldn\'t come out swinging. Dumb or what? However if court goes badly on Friday I\'m afraid I will have less than plesant things to say to the judge and will likely have to be restrained from going after the defandant, my idea of punishment would be locking him and me alone in a room for 10 min and seeing how well the coward does one-on-one. I\'m quite sure I could deal out more \'justice\' and \'rehabilation\' in 10 min then the courts ever could.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
1. Ever happens again, lay on the horn, put it in low gear and keep moving. If they are dumb enough to get run over, so be it. Tell the cops you were in fear of your life.

2. Move to the states where you can at least get a CCW permit and defend yourself.

3. Hope you fired that PoS employee. Wasn\'t his fight, but someone starts beatiing on my boss then I gotta go help.

Just some ideas. Sounds like the court system really doen\'t care to get these subhumans off the streets. Maybe their plan is to wait until they kill someone so they can go after bigger sentences?

Let us know how it goes.
 

Amazon warrior

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Ye gods that\'s nasty! It shocked me enough to make me post on here for the first time ever. Not that its good for much, but you have my sympathy. :(
 

chrismisterx

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Something like this happened to me, let me explain.

I was having a quiet drink in a small village in scotland, when I noticed a group of youths shouting at this 16 old year girl < she was english and the shouting was anti-english stuff >

So long story short I go across, girl gets away, I get a beating for my troubles, I was lucky, broke my front teeth and a few cuts.

So when I made it home my wife phoned the police < they was a CCTV cam near the bar where it happened >, police refused to take a statment as I had been drinking, and informed us the cam is not switched on! so would be my word against theres :(


With hindsight I was very lucky But i felt I had to do something as other people \"crossed the street\" and left the poor girl to face these men alone.

The court system sucks, police dont really care, and it seems now alot of people will always \"not see anything\"

reminds me of a saying I heard on TV.

If a girl is getting attacked dont shout rape or help no one will come, but shout fire instead.

Anyway sorry rambling abit, I am happy you are making a good recovery and i totaly understand your anger.
 

matty1001

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Originally posted by chrismisterx
If a girl is getting attacked dont shout rape or help no one will come, but shout fire instead.

Women get taught to do this at womens \'group sessions\' (dont know what they are called) and post rape therapy. Pretty wierd really, how poeple can be so ignorant about the violence that is going on around them, but if it ever happened to them they would expect all the help they could get.
 

Torn blue sky

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I have to admit I\'m one of the people that actually help people in need, and yeah, Iv\'e had a few knocks for my troubles.
it\'s worth it for the gratitude and thanks you get though..That, and it does feel satisfying to knock 7 shades of shit out of these assholes :twisted:
I can\'t abide bullies at all and no one should heve to put up with it. I think my old man had a lot to do with my outlook...
But he\'s an ex para, and not entirely sane
lol
Sorry to hear about that matey :(

Ed* as an afterthought. My dad actually got held up at a cash machine by 2 guys in a small town near me. The one with the knife ended up with broken ribs and an extra joint in his arm and the other nearly lost his jaw...Guess who got arrested???
Our laws suck ass!
 

krom1415

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Shake your dads hand from me TBS:D
MPJ, I sympathise with your troubles and sincerely hope you are better now and that this chap gets some justice, but you had a choice, and made the wrong one. Was it bravado? me thinks yes.
I have been training and teaching self defence for 30 years now and I would not of got out of that van, I would of driven over them.
Conclusion, if your still feeling brave theres always retaliation, mixed with calm intelligance, i.e. meet each one on a one to one basis, in a place of your choosing.
I got a kicking when I was drunk by 4 guys, in front of my then girlfriend. I was only 17 yrs old. My reaction, I met up with them all in a dark alley one night, nunchukas in hand..... you can guess the rest.............. I had no further trouble in that town :D but the outcome could of been so different, bravado? yes mixed with stuborness and pride. I was lucky and so were you. We are alive

:D
 

Torn blue sky

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Oh IiiiIiii IIII I I am alive..Ooohoohooooh oh...you get the picture, Eddie Veder drew that one.
Tis true, In hindsight I could\'ve been wormfood by now. Best way to deal with trouble? avoid it!
I\'m a bit of a hypocryte on that score, but rationally it makes sense..
 

krom1415

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Me too TBS, I usually do the wrong thing, fun but dangerous, now I think before I react, as I have a wife and kids to look after. :D
 

MPJ

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Originally posted by krom1415
...that this chap gets some justice, but you had a choice, and made the wrong one. Was it bravado? me thinks yes.
I have been training and teaching self defence for 30 years now and I would not of got out of that van, I would of driven over them...

Of no doubt I made the wrong choice, and I\'m sure it was a bit of bravado. I\'m not as young as I used to be, but then again even when I was younger there isnt\' much you can do against 8 armed assailants.

Unfortunatlly for me, you have a little more common sense than me it seems. I used to fight in the ring as a younger man (not boxing either... Shootfighting as in Ultimate Fighter, Pride, etc...) and can certainlly take care of myself one on one, probablly even two on one if I had to.

Originally posted by airhead
3. Hope you fired that PoS employee. Wasn\'t his fight, but someone starts beatiing on my boss then I gotta go help.

Indeed he was fired. I defended him to my wife for a few weeks first though (remember I did say I do my best to believe in the best of people) telling her he was to afraid to do anything and was stunned with fear (this caused much fighting between the wifie and I). But I couldn\'t do it any longer when he refused to give a statement to the police so I fired him then.

Originally posted by Torn Blue Sky
I have to admit I\'m one of the people that actually help people in need, and yeah, Iv\'e had a few knocks for my troubles.

I\'m one of those too. Got bullied a lot as a kid and I can\'t abide by it at all to the point where I will stick up for just about anyone to anyone(s). Unfortunatlly for the world it now seems to me that this is the exception rather than the rule.

About the only one of the \'witnesses\' I understand is the guy who walked by while this was happening pushing his baby in a carriage. He passed and when he got to the corner called the police. Baby in carriage is a good excuse not to get involved.

@ Everyone Else: Thanks for the support. I\'ve been in a constant state of annoyance since last night when I got called home from my lodge meeting by my pregnant wife crying on the phone... Crying I found out due to the late delivery of the subpoena and the conversation with the police officer that had followed where she learned much of what the courts arn\'t going to go. This has actually been much harder on her than me and she is still going through therapy from this (it didn\'t help that both the police and doctors had told her if I was an older/smaller/weaker man I\'d most likely be dead or a vegitable [yes, I\'m a big frigger]).

On a side note: I\'ve been putting off writing the \'Victim Impact Statement\' for the courts, a document where I am supposed to describe how this event has affected my (and my families) life. Been putting it off because I don\'t want to give the punk the satisfaction of thinking he has had any affect on me whatsoever and is anything more than a passing moment in my life.
 

funnymouth

Active member
Originally posted by MPJ
Sadly the older and more experienced I get I am starting to realize that most people are basically large walking piles of crap.

i too, have learned this lesson the hard way. really gets you down when you consider that most people take action out of selfeshness. every once in a while though, people will surprize you, and express honest compassion. temper yourself to the world, but dont become so cynical that you overlook kindness when its there. im a young, unshaven long haired, baggy pants and print tee wearin, punk - and im often looked at like i AM a thug because of those superficial qualities. im not. ive taken my share of knocks, too, for standing up for people and ideals i believe in - and there is no reward except the knowledge that you did the right thing.

stay happy-go-lucky, and be critical, but know that nice people do still exist.
 

krom1415

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OOOOh, shootfighting, got any video footage of you MPJ :D

I boxed in the ring for a short while, English Boxing whilst learning chinese boxing as well..... some chap who was far better than me thought he would give me a beating in the practice ring on day.... and he was.... then I roundhouse kicked him in the head and knocked him out. lol...I really got told off... but he never bullied the beginners again.

P.S. I\'m a low kick man now..... I learn\'t my lesson with using high kicks:D but only once, I learn\'t quick.
 

MPJ

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Originally posted by krom1415
OOOOh, shootfighting, got any video footage of you MPJ :D

I boxed in the ring for a short while, English Boxing whilst learning chinese boxing as well..... some chap who was far better than me thought he would give me a beating in the practice ring on day.... and he was.... then I roundhouse kicked him in the head and knocked him out. lol...I really got told off... but he never bullied the beginners again.

P.S. I\'m a low kick man now..... I learn\'t my lesson with using high kicks:D but only once, I learn\'t quick.

Sadly no videos. Havn\'t been in a ring in about 11 years either. I never was really all that talented at it. I made it through fights not by skill or technique but by being one really tough bastard. I\'d take my lickings till I could close and take \'em down where I could work the ground.

FYI to those that don\'t realize, but being tall is in more ways a disadvantage in free-form fighting than an advantage, makes your center of gravity much higher and means when pushing/striking opponent you are actually driving them back onto their feet whereas they are pushing you up and off yours.
 
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