Sounds reasonable...

minimart

New member
@Nelson well written...do me a favour please. Copy what you have written. Print it out and seal it in an envelope addressed to yourself and do not open it for 30 years. If some of us are here still post your thoughts on what you have just said....it would be.... interesting.
 

finn17

New member
LOL..

I am thirty years older than Nelson and have more letters after my name than in my name and I agree wholeheartedly with everything he said...I couldn\'t have put it better myself:D:bouncy:
 

Nelson

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Originally posted by minimart
@Nelson well written...do me a favour please. Copy what you have written. Print it out and seal it in an envelope addressed to yourself and do not open it for 30 years. If some of us are here still post your thoughts on what you have just said....it would be.... interesting.


Heh, why, do you think when I\'m near death and desperately looking for reassurance that my life wasn\'t wasted away painting, my beliefs will change? :D

No insult to 46 year-olds meant....You\'re not really that close to death.
 

minimart

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No, it is simply that when a person stops living for themselves and starts living for other people things may change....such as the change from being not responsible for oneself and being responsible for say a child or two or for say aging parents who helped you grow up to. Life is a matter of perpective. No one perspective is right here. I don\'t know yours, nor do you know mine, but suffice to say that if I lived your life for a week and you lived mine for a week you and I would become pretty good friends for it simply because we have a different understanding for what the other must live through. Deathbed conversions....not for me, but I do believe that if it is sincere it is worth something regardless of age. Close to the cradle or close to death it matters not and yes I would like to call it middle age but somehow I doubt that I am going to make it to 92lollol but if I do it right this time out the age that I get to is not important.

I respect your thoughts and certainly your ability to express them...true signs of sentient life...proof that there is much cause for hope in the human race, that some teenagers have a solid grasp on their individuality and place in the world. To me that by itself is a cause for celebration. No Humour, Sarcasm or malice intended with that last statement. I really do mean that.:cool:
 

finn17

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I take your point...

But, whilst having had far more than my fair share of life\'s trials and tribulations, I still do not feel the need to either blame them on an external agency, or seek solace from that agency.

If there is indeed a god/supreme being, then all I ask is a baseball bat and half an hour in a locked room with him/her/them/it/ whatever...:D
 

vincegamer

Active member
Originally posted by finn17
IMO \'religion\' means a belief in a supreme being, a god, or creator. Atheism, is the belief that no such being exists, existed or will exist. It can\'t therefore be called a religion...
If you stretch that just a tiny bit, say religion is a firmly held belief regarding a divine being, then atheism, being the firmly held belief that no such being exists, is a form of religion. That\'s how it is generally seen in the USA.
That is why the government cannot force everyone to be atheist nor can it stop people from being atheists. The US constitution guarantees freedom of religion and freedom from religion (contrary to what Elizabeth Dole would believe). Therefore, atheists are as protected as any other religion.

Agnosticism on the other hand is the lack of belief and therefore is not considered a religion.
 

Sand Rat

New member
Originally posted by darthfoley
Originally posted by Sturmhalo
My god\'s bigger than your god, and can kick your gods ass! Hold on, isn\'t that how wars are started?

lol

Quite a few of them, yes.

Most of them where I\'m at now have started that waylol
 

Dragonsreach

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Staff member
Originally posted by finn17
But, whilst having had far more than my fair share of life\'s trials and tribulations, I still do not feel the need to either blame them on an external agency, or seek solace from that agency.

If there is indeed a god/supreme being, then all I ask is a baseball bat and half an hour in a locked room with him/her/them/it/ whatever...:D
Then I\'ll join you with another bat and we\'ll go sort out the other git down South as well!
 

finn17

New member
You\'re on!

Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Then I\'ll join you with another bat and we\'ll go sort out the other git down South as well!
Although, I am sure Michael Moorcock covered this already, and Philip Pullman is also on the case..

What a wonderful quest...:flip:
 

Sand Rat

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Originally posted by finn17
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Then I\'ll join you with another bat and we\'ll go sort out the other git down South as well!
Although, I am sure Michael Moorcock covered this already, and Philip Pullman is also on the case..

What a wonderful quest...:flip:

Can I join in the fun? Theres a few words I\'d like to have with both of the gentlemen in question.
 

finn17

New member
The more the merrier...

Originally posted by steelcult
Can I join in the fun? Theres a few words I\'d like to have with both of the gentlemen in question.
I\'ve even got a a spare bat:D:bouncy:
 

Klute

New member
I really am in need of some stress relief,but I need to know who the two gentlemen mentioned are first.
I could always hit the walls.

BTW I do not condone any sort of violence,unless it is absolutely necessarry and makes you feel good.
 

finn17

New member
LOL.....

Originally posted by Klute
...I need to know who the two gentlemen mentioned are first.
We are nothing if not ambitious:D

We were talking about God and Satan...we reckon both could do with a good kick up the arse...:flip:
 

Dragonsreach

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Staff member
Personally if I do find out there\'s a Heaven & a Hell, I\'m Taking The Archangel Michael\'s sword and going straight dowstairs to put up a sign:
[align=center] \"Under New Managment\"[/align]

:cool:
 

Klute

New member
And I will be in the middle somewhere wondering who those two guys are.:innocent::mad:

Hey the only letters I will get after my name are,
R I P
 
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