Terrorist action in India

AinuLainour

New member
Originally posted by Trevor
Yes, the trouble is that terrorism is usually a symptom of social trouble and conflicting belief systems.

This makes it virtually impossible to win the \'war\' using force of arms*, you kill one terrorist and suddenly you make his brother, son etc into a terrorist.

No, fighting isn\'t usually the answer to these things, you need to address the core problems.

What amazes me is how many of these terrorist groups are religous, which is odd considering most religions consider killing people to be bad... ???


*the only way to be sure is to kill the terrorist, his family, and everyone he knows...

Cue Sarcasm: Good point! I guess if we send over an ambassador or two Osama and co. will come and talk over why they did such a thing.

But honestly, how do you stop a terrorist? With no fighting they\'ll say that the victim is afraid, and will keep the terrorist attacks, with fighting at least their head honchos get captured and killed, leaving those young, confused muslims without a terrorist leader. THAT\'S when the westerners and such need to send in leaders who can show the right path.

And my condolences and prayers go out to those victims, their families, and everyone touched by this terrible occurence.
 

Hieronymus

Member
People can rationalize doing anything to anyone by dehumanizing the victim. In doing this, however, they dehumanize themselves. Groups of people obsess over the differences between them but if they concentrated on what we have in common, this sort of thing wouldn\'t happen.
 

minimaker

New member
Sad news indeed. Though possibly not that much a surprise to the people there. I was in Mumbai last year and a local software dealer told me about religions in India and conflicts because of it. He said it was a bit surprising it had already been peacefull for such a long time.

Hope this is just an incident and not the start of another bombing campaign.
 

StarFyre

Active member
it\'s not that bad....

Generally, it\'s not that bad...

The biggest issue is hindu vs muslim. (sometimes a few other issues here and there but the northern region battle over kashmir is the biggest)

Sanjay
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by supervike
Oh come on! They can\'t keep this going on forever can they...I mean how long do those guys hold a grudge?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
The grudge between Ireland and England 500+ years. (oh and if you think it\'s over, watch the news about the Orange Lodge parades, due to start this weekend. )

EDIT: Sorry I did not want my reply to sound trite or unsympathetic, terrorist actions are something I hate.

I have ended up with an incomplete posting due to a system failure. I did have a very long and rational post, which is lost now.
 

Ritual

New member
After a while the grudge is all these people have - it\'s become their identity. If the conflict would be resolved they would have nothing left. That\'s why they try to keep the conflict alive. It\'s not about winning or obtaining your goals anymore... it\'s about maintaining status quo.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Exactly Anders...that is why I wrote the grudge post with the \'rolling eyes\' smiley...

Generations of these people ARE the grudge...It gets passed on like a family heirloom. But the problem is that it is interwoven into the religion (muslim, jewish, christian alike)...and preached at such an early age that it is more than a belief to this people...its an undisputable truth.

Imagine the world we\'d live in if the amount of energy used to hold these grudges were focused elsewhere.... Ah, but thats hippy talk!:rolleyes: (note more rolly eyes)
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
Originally posted by Chern Ann
Please report in Fizl, if you\'re ok.
Talking with her this morning, she is nowhere near the area.
In fact, not even in the same country right now.
 

dauber22

New member
All this discussion of these tragic events and how best to combat them reminds me of an old aphorism from the 60s:

Fighting for peace is like f@cking for virginity

The military option, while sometimes the only viable one available, rarely brings about \"Peace\"
 

petey

New member
Makes me laugh how people think that attacking terrorists and fighting wars around the world to stop terrorism will end it, of course, the laugh is tinged with anger and sadness and frustration, but it\'s still a laugh...
 

Fizl

Secret Crocodile
Originally posted by Chern Ann
Please report in Fizl, if you\'re ok.

Hi everyone - thanks for checking :) I\'m currently in Singapore, so I was safely out of the country at the time

Thanks again

Shaz
 

Fizl

Secret Crocodile
Singapore is nice and clean (especially compared to India!!). I don\'t know about dropping chewing gum, but I know you can\'t buy it here. You are allowed to bring it into the country though.

Shaz
 

Shawn R. L.

New member
Originally posted by petey
Makes me laugh how people think that attacking terrorists and fighting wars around the world to stop terrorism will end it, of course, the laugh is tinged with anger and sadness and frustration, but it\'s still a laugh...

Every society still \'does war\' with bank robbers, rapists, murders, etc...... Dosent put a complete stop to it but I believe we all would agree it\'s necessary to stem the tide.
 

No Such Agency

New member
Originally posted by Shawn R. L.
Every society still \'does war\' with bank robbers, rapists, murders, etc...... Dosent put a complete stop to it but I believe we all would agree it\'s necessary to stem the tide.
Yes, and we call it \"law enforcement\"... not \"the war that goes on forever\". Perpetual war is not the basis for a healthy, functioning democracy. This is why the trend of \"militarizing\" the police is also alarming.
 

Fizl

Secret Crocodile
Originally posted by Chern Ann
Hey you\'re back in town! Good to hear you\'re safe and sound.

Yep, 3 more days here before home. Going to do a bit of gadget shopping tomorrow I think :D

Shaz
 

spazzy

New member
I think what saddens me the most is that these individuals are willing to not only sacrafice (or throw away) their own lives for their cause, but also the lives of innocent individuals. I\'d love to be angry, but over the years I\'ve moved past that. All that remains now is a genuine feeling of sympathy. I feel sorry for the people who are hurt without good reason, and I feel sorry for the individuals who are so base and vulgar as to see the need for these types of action. :no: It\'s a real shame, I could have wished for a better world, but it is what we\'ve made it.
 
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