College? who needs it....

[marineboy]

Originally posted by MarkusTay

Originally posted by No Such Agency
I know far too many science wonks who know dick about art, culture or even science outside their chosen niche. I\'m also not saying a plumber or drywaller can\'t be an intellectual...

Ahem... or a carpenter?

Never judge someone by the job they hold. lol

As an apprenticed carpenter, I can unequivocally say it is beyond our ken to be intellectuals.

And what are intellectuals anyways but schmarzty show-offs anyways?

A person who knows and loves their subject matter can be knowlegable without intellectual leanings.

Intelligensia... into the work-camps with \'em!

 

[MarkusTay]

An \'intellectual\' is a person who knows a little something about a great deal of subjects. ie... CMON forum members.

An expert is an idiot who knows everything about ONE subject. ie... GamesWorshop employees.


lol:bouncy::flip:

 

[Astorderire]

Message original : Spacemunkie

Originally posted by Astorderire

Message original : frenchkid
...and considering that only 10% of people pass it my chances are limited
)

Et comment se passe le Bac?

Only limited if you aint good enough! This is exactly what this country is lacking at the moment - any type of strict selection policy for pretty much anything. No wonder there\'re so many incompetents around.

In fact this system is looking more and more like lotery. Competitive exams are the rule in matter of acces to elite education in France but it leads students to sacrifice 1 to 3 years of their life ( and their health and sanity) for an uncertain result. So in the end mainly the rich ( you dont have the time or the energy for a part time job) and the lucky are selected this way. The others end in university and either waste 1 year socializing then give up or waste 3 to 5 years taking aimless exams before accessing something interesting...

 

[sebrushworth]

Originally posted by marineboy

Intelligensia... into the work-camps with \'em!

I like your thinking marineboy

 

[Dr Sanch]

It seems anyone is allowed into Uni over here as long as they stump up the cash. Then you only need 40% marks in your first year exams to get to the next year so the Uni can get your second year money as well.

I went to Pendleton College Salford and had a great time and came out with 4 A-levels. Then it was into the real world of work.

 

[frenchkid]

Originally posted by Astorderire

Message original : frenchkid
I still don\'t know Amongst my options:
- EPSCI ( management school in paris )
- prepa ( kinda hard to explain but it\'s suposed to prepare student to go to really good businesse schools )
- Institut d\'etude politique ( my first choice but I still have to pass the admission exame, and considering that only 10% of people pass it my chances are limited
)

Et comment se passe le Bac?

Ca viens, ca viens, plus que 4 jour d\'horreur a me taper des exos sans fin Bon apres j\'echaine avec deux semaine d\'histoire intensive si je veux avoir une petit chance a mon concour
et j\'ai ete conformist au possible en philo

 

[finn17]

Hmm..

I think Spacemunkie has a point. A lot of our education has gone down the tubes. You can do degrees in things like carpet fitting or \'David Beckham\'. Media studies is a popular way of \'opting out\' whilst \'staying in\'.

If I had kids of that age, unless they were out and out geniuses, I\'d encourage them to learn a trade. Plumbers and electricians...yes, and carpenters are as rare as unicorn droppings where I live and can basically charge what they like.

Mind you, I am not really the one to be talking....

Redbridge Technical College: 4 year indudtrial apprenticeship in Manufacturing Technology - (Paid ).

Lancaster University: 3 Year BSc Hons in Psychology and Systems, 1st Class (Unpaid )

Lancaster University: 2 years studying for PhD in IT and Education. Dropped out. (Paid ).

La Sante Union College: 1 year PGCE (Unpaid ).

Southampton University: 1 year MSc in Educational Psychology (Paid ).

Wow! 11 years as a student and paid proper money for 7 of them.

 

[MarkusTay]

You\'ve got a Southhampton University too? There\'s one about twenty miles east of me; it\'s a marine-biology school.

But I guess yours is probably the original.

 

[finn17]

Heh..

Ours is heavily into Marine Biology too...and I imagine it does predate yours by a little

 

[EricJ]

I went to Reed, and Lewis and Clark Colleges, both in Portland, OR and ended up with degree\'s in Business/Economics, and International Politics/Business. I actually use them to some degree, athough what I use more is the graphic design knowledge I self taught myself while working on the international journal for my department, which I\'ve since turned into my own business

and yes, Lewis and Clark is where Monica Lewinski went to college and yes I was there at the same time as her, but never really noticed her (she was also a couply years ahead of me).

my next goal is Stanford business school, if I can figure a way to convince them to let me in

-Eric

 

[frenchkid]

Originally posted by EricJ
yes, Lewis and Clark is where Monica Lewinski went to college and yes I was there at the same time as her, but never really noticed her (she was also a couply years ahead of me).


-Eric

Trust me you didn\'t miss out on much Ate next to her once in NYC and .... well we\'ll say that bill could have made a better choice

 

[airhead]

Becca, once again you start a thread that should lead to some straigh forward postings, but instead turn into a socio-political discussion. Way to go girl.

Couple of years at OU (Univ. of Oklahoma)
Couple of year of school of hard knocks (Navy - it\'s not just a job, it\'s an adventure)
Few of more years at OSU (Oklahoma State)

Graduated with a BS in Construction Management (Place for frustrated civil engineers that could not get past diferential equasions.)

Could probably be where I am today without it, but it would have been a much harder climb to get here.

Looking back, I pobably would have done something different like be a high school physics teacher.

 

[frenchkid]

Originally posted by ipaintminis
then off to Law School.

Humm not planing on broadway anymore ?

 

[Astorderire]

Message original : frenchkid

Ca viens, ca viens, plus que 4 jour d\'horreur a me taper des exos sans fin Bon apres j\'echaine avec deux semaine d\'histoire intensive si je veux avoir une petit chance a mon concour
et j\'ai ete conformist au possible en philo

Well done! lol
and \"merde\" for the \"concour\".

 

[Dragon Forge Design]

I went to the University of Wisconsin-Stout graduated in 88-90 with a double major in Industrial Technology amd Industrial Design.. and for the last 15 years Ive been working as a sculptor making toy soldiers

I think my University education paid off.. Plus I learned a lot of quality things.. like how to drink beer

 

[Godlikebuthumble]

University of Trier. (hoorayyyyyyyy!)

Trying hard to get my degree in Classical Archaeology and Egyptology... Well, maybe not THAT hard... :innocent:

 

[Margo]

BA in Journalism/Mass Communication with Fine Arts as a minor. Was thinking about a double major (Political Science), tried a couple of courses, didn\'t like it

 

[MarkusTay]

Originally posted by Godlikebuthumble
Trying hard to get my degree in Classical Archaeology and Egyptology... Well, maybe not THAT hard... :innocent:

I\'m pretty sure they already dug up everything.

lol

 

[finn17]

You\'d be surprised...

Originally posted by MarkusTay
I\'m pretty sure they already dug up everything.

They have certainly dug up most of the gold, shiny valuable stuff...but that isn\'t real archaeology.

It would be like future archaeologists digging up Fort Knox, Buckingham Palace and the Pentagon. Nice...but doesn\'t tell you anything about how real people actually lived. To find that out..you have to excavate, landfills, middens etc...Not as financially rewarding, but very informative:flip:

 

[Equus]

Originally posted by Drake Farstrider
Although I am think of going back to school at the ripe old age of 31.

Actually, I honestly think that it\'s not a bad choice to wait for college like that. I think you\'ll have a much clearer picture of what you want to do and what you\'re willing to do to accomplish it. Gross oversimplification, but you get my drift.

I attended the University of Washington and graduated with a BA in theatre arts. Having a liberal arts degree, I think, has given me a little legitimacy in applying for jobs, but hasn\'t really made all that much of an effect. The theatre part mostly helped give me some solid training and good contacts. I was actually discouraged by one of my instructors from seeking a MFA in acting. He told me I didn\'t really need any more training, and that the contacts is all I\'d really gain from it. That and a terminal degree I suppose.

Profesionally, I\'m not putting that degree to any use whatsoever, since I\'m working for a handheld ultrasound company.