Firearms & co... hate or love them?
- Thread starter Tony Manero
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History has a way of repeating itself, and lets you see patterns.
Newsweek 1975
Media Hype? 100 years of climate scare
Newsweek 1975
Media Hype? 100 years of climate scare
Avelorn
Sven Jonsson
@orb: Yep! we are slowly re-emerging! Hopefully we can do it fast enough... 
Well I\'m thinking more in terms of temperature.. grapes are nice! Just hope that the gulf-stream won\'t change.. then well. Think the russian tundra!
@Finn17: Why don\'t you believe in global warming and that we are affecting it?
@Evil Dave: Nice find.. I like that 70\'s article, the other one I\'ve already seen. Funny that it says meteorologists... maybe it wasn\'t separated from science about climate back then? As it is now it\'s two very different things.
Maybe another graph might make it clearer for you: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nhshgl.gif
Hmm.. just a thought: Have you thought that if we are supposed to go into a period of cooling.. the anomaly is even greater?
We might go into a period of cooling in a couple of years and so. I mean I\'ve read reports about that the oceans have been cooling since 2003. It doesn\'t matter as there is more things affecting temperature then green house effect. It\'s the longterm trend they look at.
Well I\'m thinking more in terms of temperature.. grapes are nice!
Just hope that the gulf-stream won\'t change.. then well. Think the russian tundra!@Finn17: Why don\'t you believe in global warming and that we are affecting it?
@Evil Dave: Nice find..
I like that 70\'s article, the other one I\'ve already seen. Funny that it says meteorologists... maybe it wasn\'t separated from science about climate back then? As it is now it\'s two very different things.Maybe another graph might make it clearer for you: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nhshgl.gif
Hmm.. just a thought: Have you thought that if we are supposed to go into a period of cooling.. the anomaly is even greater?
We might go into a period of cooling in a couple of years and so. I mean I\'ve read reports about that the oceans have been cooling since 2003. It doesn\'t matter as there is more things affecting temperature then green house effect. It\'s the longterm trend they look at.
This might count against me in any sanity investigation...:innocent:
It\'s just too convenient that al queda appeared just after the demise of the \'evil empire\'. Every society needs a nemesis...if you are a politician. Al queda clearly doesn\'t work, well at least it\'s not as threatening as the \'Russian Bear\'. So lets go for Global Warming...
I have gathered seashells from mountain tops and studied at a university that used to be half-a-mile under a glacier. I have read latin texts that explain that a good reason for invading Britain was it\'s grape-growing potential. I am not at all persuaded by current arguments that, once again, place man at the centre of the equation. We actualy are pretty insignificcant in global, never mind universal terms.
A possibility. But a thought for you: Have you thought that due to the many, many times they have been wrong, that climatology at this time is inherently unpredictable? Do our climatologists have any credibility at all?Originally posted by Avelorn
Hmm.. just a thought: Have you thought that if we are supposed to go into a period of cooling.. the anomaly is even greater?
Does our media?
Does the UN?
Speakin\' of media...
It stands to reason that if supposed experts can\'t predict the weather for next week with any certainty...how the hell do they expect us to believe they can predict it for the next 100 years with any certainty?
I\'m a fan of the \"weather rock\" myself---
If the rock is wet, it\'s raining.
If the rock is dry, it\'s not.
If the rock is hot, it\'s sunny.
If the rock is warm, it\'s partly cloudy.
If the rock is covered in white, it\'s snowing.
If the rock is gone....it means some news/weather anchor/climatologist stole your rock.
It stands to reason that if supposed experts can\'t predict the weather for next week with any certainty...how the hell do they expect us to believe they can predict it for the next 100 years with any certainty?
I\'m a fan of the \"weather rock\" myself---
If the rock is wet, it\'s raining.
If the rock is dry, it\'s not.
If the rock is hot, it\'s sunny.
If the rock is warm, it\'s partly cloudy.
If the rock is covered in white, it\'s snowing.
If the rock is gone....it means some news/weather anchor/climatologist stole your rock.
vincegamer
Active member
Simple answer is that long-term trends are much more reliable, kind of in the way you can fairly well predict how a group will behave but an individual person is unpredictable.
However, that doesn\'t mean they can\'t be wrong. Look at geologists predicting California earthquakes. They made some pretty stupid assumptions that once they realized severely cut back the expected number and severity of earthquakes.
Sure similar to summer and winter, I can predict with reasonable certainty that summer will be warmer than winter, because I and others have observed this to be true.
Observation is the key. Observation leads to credibility.
Name me one observer of the last Global Warming. Name me one scientist who can truly, and credibly be called a Global Warming expert.
The only reliable observer of the trend in our climate is historical data, which shows a steady rise and decline of global temperature with fluxes in between, with or without Man.
Yeah. They seemed to have moved on from California earthquakes to hurricanes. Seems like every year for the last 5 or more, they\'ve predicted that THIS will be the year that multiple Category 5 hurricanes will devastate the east coast of the US, probably wiping out DC, Baltimore, NYC, Philly and Boston completely. It\'s like they are required to have some kind of major impending disaster. ??? Is this something they teach in journalism school? ???
I like the catch phrase of one of the local stations here: \"We keep you informed, not alarmed\" Unfortunately, it\'s only a catch phrase. They are generally as bad or worse as any other station.
vincegamer
Active member
oh my god! I have to move inland NOW!Highbulp Billy
New member
looks like you\'re gonna win
Gilvan Blight
New member
I\'m still in shock that it wasn\'t locked on page 1.
philologus
Subgenius
Originally posted by vincegamer
I had just bought property north of the Great Lakes in the hopes that GW will turn it into the next Cancun. I\'m betting on me being wrong. Come on GW!
DrEvilmonki
Active member
Do you believe in the big bang theory?
