I didn\'t wanna bring it up, BUT...
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I think a \"gat\" is a shotgun. At least I got that impression from all the gangsta rap I listened to in the 80s. 
EDIT: Did some searching and apparently it\'s just slang for gun. Comes from gatling gun originally and was used during the prohibition era as slang for the Thompson. Nowadays it just means gun.
EDIT: Did some searching and apparently it\'s just slang for gun. Comes from gatling gun originally and was used during the prohibition era as slang for the Thompson. Nowadays it just means gun.
Talion
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I love these love/hate gun threads.
Everyone knows my thought on gun laws.
I will say one thing.......if it wasn\'t for the easy accessability of the guns, NONE of this wouldn\'t have happened. 30mins the news said it took for him to walk out the store with a fully loaded, prepared gun.
People throw in the comments, about he could\'ve used a knife, or a fork, or a board with a nail in it, But if he did 30+ people wouldn\'t have been killed. The fact that you can kick open a door, stand in the doorway and kill everyone in side with out taking a step is the problem with guns. If he had to get up close and personal then he would\'ve been disarmed long before he\'d killed 10.
As for the WW1, WW2 comment thats utter uneducated bullshit, and not worthy of a decent response.
Everyone knows my thought on gun laws.
I will say one thing.......if it wasn\'t for the easy accessability of the guns, NONE of this wouldn\'t have happened. 30mins the news said it took for him to walk out the store with a fully loaded, prepared gun.
People throw in the comments, about he could\'ve used a knife, or a fork, or a board with a nail in it, But if he did 30+ people wouldn\'t have been killed. The fact that you can kick open a door, stand in the doorway and kill everyone in side with out taking a step is the problem with guns. If he had to get up close and personal then he would\'ve been disarmed long before he\'d killed 10.
As for the WW1, WW2 comment thats utter uneducated bullshit, and not worthy of a decent response.
DrEvilmonki
Active member
The idea that Americans need the right to arms to protect against their government is spurious in the modern world.
Someone bought up the IRA, where do you think they got all their weapons from - now the local hunting club?
The reality is that if you ever had your governmental system collapse so far that you needed armed resistance to fight it then weapons would be available.
The constitution is a document written in a certain climate, most of it is fantastically visionary stuff, some of it is dated dross.
Someone bought up the IRA, where do you think they got all their weapons from - now the local hunting club?
The reality is that if you ever had your governmental system collapse so far that you needed armed resistance to fight it then weapons would be available.
The constitution is a document written in a certain climate, most of it is fantastically visionary stuff, some of it is dated dross.
Shawn R. L.
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You tend to attach crassness and simple brutishness with your comments.......the point is really simple Phil, learn some adult decorum and decency.
Actually a student who was concerned for safety at VT applied for a C&C permit and was turned down........I never said anything about it being a requirement.
vincegamer
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Does this count as an exercise of Godwin\'s Law?
DrEvilmonki
Active member
Sorry Shawn but that last comment defies reality really.
No Such Agency
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And the free French and the Polish and the Canadians and the Indians (how many people know that Indian troops fought in Europe?) and so on. It wasn\'t called a \"World\" War for nothing
Originally posted by No Such Agency
And the free French and the Polish and the Canadians and the Indians (how many people know that Indian troops fought in Europe?) and so on. It wasn\'t called a \"World\" War for nothing
Oh yes...definitely so. The contributions of all those countries helped win the war. I wasn\'t trying to insinuate otherwise...My apologies if I did.:beer:
No Such Agency
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No, you didn\'t.
I think these threads are pretty repetitive. There\'s a similar one going on at TMP (well, was, I think Bill has deleted it now, the tyrant !). Admittedly, there are more weekend warrior types taking part in that one and their debate is less tasteful.
I\'m not convinced these extensive discussions get us anywhere.
Incidentally, Recoil, do you buy Old Glory miniatures?
!). Admittedly, there are more weekend warrior types taking part in that one and their debate is less tasteful. I\'m not convinced these extensive discussions get us anywhere.
Incidentally, Recoil, do you buy Old Glory miniatures?
My opinion
To preface:
Im a college student at a university a state away from Va-tech. (UNCC, University of North Carolina at Charlotte)
The schools are of similar size (20,000 to 26,000 students UNCC to Va tech respectively). Land foot print Va tech is about twice as large as uncc (1200 acres to 2600 acres)
My thoughts:
I feel no amount of planning could have stopped this from happening. At Va tech, my school, or other public enviroment not under extreme security.
This entire incident basically grounded me and scared the crap out of me for a few days.
I guess I might be considered one of those \"gung-ho\" types as the first thought I had when this happened was if even a fraction of the people were armed, could they have stopped him?
After thinking about it more, I realized that this would have happened no matter the state of Gun laws in the US or on College campus\'.
If he took college level chemistry and had a walmart near by, he could have just made simple bombs pretty easily and 32+ people would have still died.
If handguns were banned, a short model assualt rifle like the Russian Beta Spetnaz (shortened AK-47) which is much more powerful and carries double+ the ammuntion that of a 9mm pistol. Just as easily used in building etc.
After the run through the news crews did on our campus asking people if they felt safe. And interviewing campus police etc. I realzied that the campus police aren\'t ever the same. You rarely see familar faces for long as most leave to go to city,county, or state level departments. The ones that are there just stay for job experience and then follow the others. So most are not prepared for what happened or anything similar.
Even after all of this, I have little doubt that this exact situtation could be easily repeated in any major city or university campus anywhere in US without much problem on the Attackers part.
To preface:
Im a college student at a university a state away from Va-tech. (UNCC, University of North Carolina at Charlotte)
The schools are of similar size (20,000 to 26,000 students UNCC to Va tech respectively). Land foot print Va tech is about twice as large as uncc (1200 acres to 2600 acres)
My thoughts:
I feel no amount of planning could have stopped this from happening. At Va tech, my school, or other public enviroment not under extreme security.
This entire incident basically grounded me and scared the crap out of me for a few days.
I guess I might be considered one of those \"gung-ho\" types as the first thought I had when this happened was if even a fraction of the people were armed, could they have stopped him?
After thinking about it more, I realized that this would have happened no matter the state of Gun laws in the US or on College campus\'.
If he took college level chemistry and had a walmart near by, he could have just made simple bombs pretty easily and 32+ people would have still died.
If handguns were banned, a short model assualt rifle like the Russian Beta Spetnaz (shortened AK-47) which is much more powerful and carries double+ the ammuntion that of a 9mm pistol. Just as easily used in building etc.
After the run through the news crews did on our campus asking people if they felt safe. And interviewing campus police etc. I realzied that the campus police aren\'t ever the same. You rarely see familar faces for long as most leave to go to city,county, or state level departments. The ones that are there just stay for job experience and then follow the others. So most are not prepared for what happened or anything similar.
Even after all of this, I have little doubt that this exact situtation could be easily repeated in any major city or university campus anywhere in US without much problem on the Attackers part.
