Jericho\'s Dark Angel (and various side-projects) project log

[electrolito 77]

Very nice Dan! I thought about using newer bolters too but I figured they would look weird and went with the old ones. They look good but I think you should sculpt the feeding mechanism coming from underneath like the old bolters, so they look like they belong on a vehicle. Other than that, nice pose and can\'t wait to see this all painted! Basically what I am saying is... quit doing so much at once and get one finished :flame: so I can stop WONDERING hat they would look like finished... lol

 

[Jericho]

lol I\'ll see what I can do. The thing with the ammo feeds is something I thought about, I was hoping they\'d look okay without me transplanting the ammo feeds from the stock ones.

There\'s a reason that part of the model is blu-tacked on

 

[Jericho]

OK I repositioned the bolters a bit higher up and further back, had to trim down the clips even more to make them fit. In the end I think it\'ll be easier to eyeballt his cut from now on though, since it\'s a corner to corner job and not one of those awkward .5mm above this detail, cut across to .5mm below that rivet... etc.

And then after that I felt bad about still not having done anything about the ammo feeds so I started hacking and slashing once more.

I expect to use an entire pack of Xacto blades on this first squad of Ravenwing, having the super sharp blade is necessary for all this precision slicing of relatively thick plastic. I think I\'ll need one knife for this carving and once the knives dull a bit they\'ll go into a separate pile for regular use trimming flash and whatnot.

After doing just this one guy the fresh blade is really quite dull.

 

[emopainterguy]

That looks a lot better that way Dan, especially with the ammo feeds. I don\'t really know too much about bikes so I\'m not sure on all the changes but the bolters and the foot plates look good. I dont know if you\'ve seen this article yet, but I personally think that these bases are shaped waaaaay better for the bikers than the square cavalry ones. I think they used 40mm bases but I think 25mm bases would work as well...
http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/basing-bikes/1/

 

[Jericho]

Those are hot bases, I hadn\'t thought of doing that. The bases that came with the bikers (they didn\'t used to come with any, so this was a surprise to me) don\'t offer much room for customisation but those bigger ones would indeed give a lot of freedom I think. Man if I do that these guys are gonna take a month just to build let alone paint I figure I\'m already at an hour or more of conversion on top of the standard build times. <edit> Per bike! </edit>

 

[Karpiu]

Am I got one more question abou those grey robes. How did you managed to meke them ?? wos it a combination od bestial brown or shadows grwy with some shadow grey ?

 

[Jericho]

The main color was Codex Grey, shaded down to Scorched Brown and hilighted up with a mixture of Codex Grey and Bleached Bone.

 

[electrolito 77]

Originally posted by Jericho
Man if I do that these guys are gonna take a month just to build let alone paint I figure I\'m already at an hour or more of conversion on top of the standard build times. <edit> Per bike! </edit>

Dude, you will feel the pain, especially the one of painting black... it freaking sucks... It takes me a little over 2 weeks to build 1 biker (regular guy, a month at least for a character or SGT) from cutting off the sprue to dullcote... Me personally, I hate those bases. I use the ones it comes with standard and build on top of that just like I would with any other model. They will work for you though, just because I know what you will do with them .

BTW, the bolters look like they belong now... I am very impressed with the overall result with those, so kudos man! I got intimidated and did not even try it lol. The inly thing I see is that the winged skulls are on the same side, and so is the ejection port... might want to look into that... Another thing I dont like are the new feather banner... it looks too angular :no: so I will be doing my own thing there too...

 

[Sleepybear]

The 2 caps are looking good.

The bike is looking good. Although I do not have any knowledge of these, I do think the bike looks to clean. You planning to add some decoration on it? But perhaps it\'s just because he isn\'t painted yet

 

[Starks333]

black used to be so annoying to paint, until i stopped using grey

adding bronzed flesh to black made my life of painting black so much easier



its a shame they take so long, by that rate i wont see a finished army until next yr hahah, no worries my army wont be done till then either!


as to the thread, i like the colours chosen for the chaplains robe, adds a little characte ri find

some interesting character so far, ill wait for more

Starks

 

[Jericho]

Glad you like the changes I\'m making to the typical DA style, like I\'ve said they just aren\'t gritty enough in the studio colors if you ask me. Getting dirty is something I\'m really starting to enjoy when painting

Anyway the bolters have ejection ports on both sides of the body, which is something I never understood. Whatever! Not my fault! lol

I considered trying to filet the winged skull icon and transplant it on the other side, but that\'s a ton of work and I simply don\'t have enough bolters to screw around with that kind of thing. I\'m already taking guns out of peoples\' hands for these bikes.

Finally, regarding bases, I really wish there was something in between for bases. 30x60 would be about right if you ask me, but the standard bases are 25x50 and the big oval ones on that article are 40x60. They\'re huge. Plenty of room for making them pretty, but it\'s gonna also take a lot more time.

40mm round bases are something a friend of mine used for his White Scars force, and I quite honestly don\'t approve. The bases barely stretch all the way between the tires. 60mm round bases would simply be too impractical for all of them. There just doesn\'t seem to be an easy solution for what I want to do. Ever

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Two things I forgot to mention from before:

1) I was seriously hoping for proper feathers on the new DA bits, there\'s 1-2 on them all combined and they don\'t look as good as other armies\' plastic feather bits. New Empire models have a few awesome ones to make me jealous. They are a bit cleaner than the old metal ones, but the armored feathers are a bit disappointing.

2) I quite often hilight black with Bleached Bone these days... I\'ve heard people praising a lot of these kinds of colors. Rotting Flesh, Bronzed Flesh, etc. It does add a bit of life to the shades for sure.

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[Mouth of Sauron]

keep us updated dude, I love this WIP!

 

[Larre]

update please!

// Larre

 

[Jericho]

Might not be able to get much updated in the next little while, I have a couple of papers and midterms in the next 2 weeks that need my immediate attention.

Also, I spent a good chunk of the last few days working on a commission for Newbold World, I hadn\'t done much work on them lately and the conscience kicked in. They\'re almost done now, just have to hilight the skin, paint guns, and then do some touchups. I don\'t know if Ian wants me to show them off at all before they\'re done, but it shouldn\'t be too long.

 

[Jericho]

Holy smokes, actually did some work on the Master

Some areas need a bit of touchup on the armor (it always looks good until you photograph it) but I think I like how it turned out. I tried something a little different this time around:

Started with the midtone and shaded by adding black ink and water. Did some feathered shadows, then added more black ink and did the hard edge shadows in the cracks and whatnot. Then touchup with basecoat and start hilighting like usual.

I also picked an angle of light source for the more cylindrical parts instead of just hilighting near the edges.

So the mixes are pretty much the same as before, but I had a bit more control over shading and I\'m happy with the end product.

Oh yeah, the red icon on the cloth needs a helluva lot of work. I\'m tempted to just basecoat, shade, and keep the hilights super minimal...

 

[SirJD]

Fantastic work Jericho, Ive been following this log since it began and it has been very inspirational. I love the armour on the master, cant wait to see these guys finished.

SirJD

 

[emopainterguy]

Looks good Dan. Have you tried the simpler red recipes then? Green looks nice.

I forgot to mention this today if you\'re gonna use him as Azreal instead of adding a sword to him perhaps you could convert the little dude who carries the helmet to carry the sword as well. I\'m thinking across his forearms, with the helmet resting on top.

 

[Jericho]

Holy crap would that be hard Anyway I think I have a sword picked out for him, but I would have to mod it up a fair bit. Marneus Calgar has a nice big sword with a cool looking eagle on the scabbard. Only problem that I\'d need to redo the pommel and whatnot to fit the new DA square cornered sword look.

Oh and I\'ve done some touchup on the green already and am gonna do gold next.

 

[Jericho]

Golded!

 

[Jericho]

Feathered!